Help Buying An M6 For Video!!

Hi, I'm new to the forum, but have been doing a lot of research online relating to the miniplayer and from all i've read it appears to be a brilliant product with great customer support and a dedicated community. Within the next 3 months I am looking to buy a player for playing mp3 but MORE importantly videos and am considering purchasing the m6. I was considering an archos player but I really love the compact size, design and frequent firmware updates and devotion of the meizu community. I Just wanted to know if anyone thinks it is likely that this player will ever support a 25fps frame rate? And also full support for files longer than 60 minutes (e.g Films)? From what I have read here, the new meizu encoding software appears to be solving the initial problems of audio/video sync and will probably be updated frequently, which is a positive sign. I also feel the capacity is too low. Anyway to cut a long story short should I wait a while to see if the future incarnations of the m6 bring better xvid playback and possibly a higher capacity or buy now and forget about capacity and hope for firmware updates?

Originally Posted by sere83

I also feel the capacity is too low. Anyway to cut a long story short should I wait a while to see if the future incarnations of the m6 bring better xvid playback and possibly a higher capacity or buy now and forget about capacity and hope for firmware updates?

the m6 has flash memory and not hard disc. it's a given that the capacity will max out at about 4 or 8 gb. currently, the m6 maxes out at 4gb while the musiccard (m3) will supposedly max out at 8gb. unfortunately, the m3 also will not be supporting video.

i doubt if meizu will release further versions of the m6 since they are planning other products now like the m3, m7 and m8. if you want, you could wait for those models to release, but it could take a while.

Originally Posted by sere83

I Just wanted to know if anyone thinks it is likely that this player will ever support a 25fps frame rate? And also full support for files longer than 60 minutes (e.g Films)?

25 FPS = Highly unlikely. I have never had problems with full length movies.

I am finding the judder from the low frame rate irritating. If the M6 could play Pal source video at 25fps I would happily transcode at a reduced video and audio bit rate.

Is the fps limit hardware, or could the firmware be tweaked to allow lower res, 25fps, video?

Cheers,

John

I love my M6 im really happy with it.But in the first place it is a player for music not for video,but the player peforms just great.Expect there is a Bug i noticed when you fastforad>> in video the contrast gets slightly better and when you stop FF>> then you can see the image washes out.
I hope they fix this in FW updates.Is this problem with TP player too
I hope i could help you.
PS.Iam not a native english speaker and eh the M6 ROXX:D

Greezt

The judder you see, is not due to the 20 fps. Its because the Video Converter software has a very basic conversion from 25fps to 20fps. It just skips every 5th frame. Then it has to pause every second to stay in sync with the audio. I use Avisynth for converting the framerate and the picture size. It uses a very sophisticated algorithm by interpolation the frames. The result is a very smooth video, which i can hardly distinct from a 25fps video. The Video Converter software is just a backend to the mencoder program. It creates a batch file MiniConvert.bat in the Program folder. I have modified a copy of this file to accept parameters and copied it to the Desktop. Now all i have to do is drag and drop a video file or an AviSynth-script on it and it starts converting. If you like, i could send you an example video or upload it to a place you name and you could see how it should look like.

Greetings from Germany

Alex

Just installed AviSynth-script, how to use it for video converting ?

Basically you write an AVISynth-Script for opening the Videofile and the necessary conversions. Save it as e.g. Meizuconvert.avs. Open the AVS-Script with VirtualDub, set the compression parameters for the Meizu M6 and save it as an AVI-file.
For AVI-Conversion i use the following AVS-Script:

Code:

function LoadAVI(string fname)
{
   return (AVISource(fname+".avi"))
}
function LoadWMV(string fname)
{
   return (DirectShowSource(fname+".wmv"))
}
MName="<Path to your video source file without extension>"
Width=320
Height=240
#Height=184 # Uncomment for WideScreen
LoadAVI(MName) 
ConvertToYUY2()  # Necessary for ConvertFPS
#Crop(88,0,-88,0) #Uncomment to have 16:9 video cropped to 4:3
#Crop(80,80,-80,-80) #UnComment if you have Widescreen video
#VerticalReduceBy2() # Uncomment For Pal/NTSC Source, should be quicker and eliminates interlacing. 
ConvertFPS(20) # use 18 for 18fps
#Normalize(0.98) # Uncomment for Sound normalization
BilinearResize(Width,Height)

For using the script with mencoder you need a special version of mencoder which is installed with the program MediaCoder.

Here is the modified batch file for drag and drop encoding.

Code:

chcp 1252
set path=%path%;c:\Programme\MediaCoder\codecs\
"c:\Programme\MediaCoder\codecs\mencoder.exe" -noodml %1 -o %1.avi -mc 0 -ofps 20.000 -vf-add crop=0:0:-1:-1 -vf-add scale=320:240 -vf-add expand=320:240:-1:-1:1 -vf-add rotate=1 -srate 44100 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=480 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=0 -lameopts br=128 -lameopts vol=0 -lameopts mode=0 -lameopts aq=7 -lameopts padding=3 -af volnorm -xvidencopts max_bframes=0:nogmc:noqpel

Edit the path to Mediacoder, should be c:\Progam Files\MediaCoder\" for non german XP. Save it to your Desktop. Now you can simply drag and drop the AVS-script file on it. You can modify the bitrate parameter to your needs. Remember to set the ofps-parameter to the same fps as in the script. For Widescreen and uncropped 16:9 source material you can make a second copy of the batch file with the following changes:

Code:

scale=320:184

I have attached the three files to this message.

Greetings
-Alex

To watch a dvd-movie on the meizu I have converted 3 vob-files to 3 avi-files (ca. 150-150-80mb total ca. 90min) and it looks good on the meizu screen.

(edit: it was a pal-dvd converted with meizu software without any changes)

However this horror-movie (hellboy) does'nt fright me at all on a 1.5" screen..

Originally Posted by ap91484

Basically you write an AVISynth-Script for opening the Videofile and the necessary conversions. Save it as e.g. Meizuconvert.avs. Open the AVS-Script with VirtualDub, set the compression parameters for the Meizu M6 and save it as an AVI-file.
For AVI-Conversion i use the following AVS-Script:

Code:

function LoadAVI(string fname)
{
   return (AVISource(fname+".avi"))
}
function LoadWMV(string fname)
{
   return (DirectShowSource(fname+".wmv"))
}
MName="<Path to your video source file without extension>"
Width=320
Height=240
#Height=184 # Uncomment for WideScreen
LoadAVI(MName) 
ConvertToYUY2()  # Necessary for ConvertFPS
#Crop(88,0,-88,0) #Uncomment to have 16:9 video cropped to 4:3
#Crop(80,80,-80,-80) #UnComment if you have Widescreen video
#VerticalReduceBy2() # Uncomment For Pal/NTSC Source, should be quicker and eliminates interlacing. 
ConvertFPS(20) # use 18 for 18fps
#Normalize(0.98) # Uncomment for Sound normalization
BilinearResize(Width,Height)

For using the script with mencoder you need a special version of mencoder which is installed with the program MediaCoder.

Here is the modified batch file for drag and drop encoding.

Code:

chcp 1252
set path=%path%;c:\Programme\MediaCoder\codecs\
"c:\Programme\MediaCoder\codecs\mencoder.exe" -noodml %1 -o %1.avi -mc 0 -ofps 20.000 -vf-add crop=0:0:-1:-1 -vf-add scale=320:240 -vf-add expand=320:240:-1:-1:1 -vf-add rotate=1 -srate 44100 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=480 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=0 -lameopts br=128 -lameopts vol=0 -lameopts mode=0 -lameopts aq=7 -lameopts padding=3 -af volnorm -xvidencopts max_bframes=0:nogmc:noqpel

Edit the path to Mediacoder, should be c:\Progam Files\MediaCoder\" for non german XP. Save it to your Desktop. Now you can simply drag and drop the AVS-script file on it. You can modify the bitrate parameter to your needs. Remember to set the ofps-parameter to the same fps as in the script. For Widescreen and uncropped 16:9 source material you can make a second copy of the batch file with the following changes:

Code:

scale=320:184

I have attached the three files to this message.

Greetings
-Alex

Can someone give me a link to this version of mencoder, because i tried the one from mediacoder and it says that avs is not supoorted

Originally Posted by ap91484

snip

I can convert videos with it, but it just crashes the m6 when playing them. I used vixy.net converted youtube videos.