Fast Fowarding problem with Virtual Dub

after trying several conversion applications, I was finally able to use VirtualDub the way I wanted. I can get a widescreen movie cropped correctly and have decent quality...but with one problem. Once the movie is playing on the m6, I cannot fast foward through the video..
The video starts and as soon as I press the fastfoward button, there are random numbers and sometimes characters displayed at the bottom of the screen...then the movie stops and goes to the Video's listing again.
Has anyone else experienced this?

Video's converted with the miezu software fast foward fine but don't offer the cropping ability that virtual dub does...not to mention the problems associated with syncing and VOB files. I don't care for batman as it takes nearly 4-5 times as long as virtualdub. LOLI seems to work fine as far as conversion and sound but has the same FF problem virtual dub has. Any recommendations?

Hi, and welcome to this forum.

Originally Posted by eg6motion

I don't care for batman as it takes nearly 4-5 times as long as virtualdub.

that is nonsense, and also explained in detail in the help-file/FAQ that you didn't read. BatMan in 1-pass mode is as fast as any other converter.
And if you use Virtualdub with XviD, you will see that BatMan is even faster since it uses libavc rather than XviD.
BatMan's default is 2-pass since that produces superior quality.

Originally Posted by eg6motion

LOLI seems to work fine as far as conversion and sound but has the same FF problem virtual dub has.

Loli's uses 1-pass converting only at the moment.
The FF problem you describe has been discussed a hundred times here in the forum, use the search function to look it up. Nobody knows the exact reason why the Meizu has problems with that.
However, there are 2 solutions to it, you are maybe happy to hear :
- press and hold |>> for several seconds and ignore the numbers and symbols. It will eventually start to FF. This works 98%
- use BatMan in "repair" mode to create a new index header and cut off corrupted data. Has worked for me anytime I tried.

I have the same problem this night when i wanted too watch a movie... this is the first time i hat the problem (with virual dub...) i'm gonne try to split the movie in 2 files i gues it is to long...! i will post if it helped in a few minuts!

Splitting the video helps...
i used avi splitter he can do it in a few seconds whitout any losse of the quality! pm if you want that app:D

Originally Posted by BobbyQ

Hi, and welcome to this forum.


that is nonsense, and also explained in detail in the help-file/FAQ that you didn't read. BatMan in 1-pass mode is as fast as any other converter.
And if you use Virtualdub with XviD, you will see that BatMan is even faster since it uses libavc rather than XviD.
BatMan's default is 2-pass since that produces superior quality.


Loli's uses 1-pass converting only at the moment.
The FF problem you describe has been discussed a hundred times here in the forum, use the search function to look it up. Nobody knows the exact reason why the Meizu has problems with that.
However, there are 2 solutions to it, you are maybe happy to hear :
- press and hold |>> for several seconds and ignore the numbers and symbols. It will eventually start to FF. This works 98%
- use BatMan in "repair" mode to create a new index header and cut off corrupted data. Has worked for me anytime I tried.

tried searching several times, never found anything. Search for "fast foward" brings up two threads, but thanks for the heads up. As for batman, even selecting one-pass mode takes much longer. I may have to try that file splitting method as I was also suspecting the size could be the culprit.

Originally Posted by eg6motion

As for batman, even selecting one-pass mode takes much longer.

sorry, but that is absolute nonsense ! And I don't want the people here to believe in this misinformation.
BatMan and Loli's are both using the exact same encoding program which is mencoder, technically the only difference is the user interface and some parameters. BatMan in 1-pass mode IS Loli, basically. And it does for sure not take "much" longer.
Over and out.

Well, you can encode 2pass with my app to btw.

But when it comes to quality virtual dub will produce better quality, cos it is not droping frames, but calculating new frames with "droped" frames used in it too. Erm, engrish

And yes in default configuration my app use 1 pass encoding and 8 encoding threads (that is maximum possible for video for m6 so it utilize up to 8 cpus/cores [however not much effecient bacause of xvid algorithm]).

And I don't bundle "default" mencoder build with my app.

Loli :

Code:

MEncoder Sherpya-SVN-r23169-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team

BatMan :

Code:

MEncoder 1.0rc1-3.4.2 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team

I do not know the differences between these two, but the one I am using is the latest one from the official mplayer homepage.
Additionally I am not willing to waste my time on further stupid comparisons between apples and pears. Either you like program A or program B, they're both free anyway. But I'm not letting people spread misinformation about work that I have done.

I think it may not be misinformation if he have dualcore cpu or something there can realy be speed differences. Who knows?

*sigh* whatever. BatMan uses multi-threading as well. I just stopped caring about it. I like constructive discussions, but this one isn't.
The general declaration about speed he made is false.

no its not, on my pc, it is slower. Works awsome but its slower.... could be pc related or could be the app. Eitherway, I just wanted some insight to see if anyone else figured out the FF problem, you seem bent on defending Batman....way2go, you are the man. Thats really no help to me as I have used batman, like the results, but I was attracted to the speed of VirtuaDub...about 15 minutes for 2-3hour movie. PC is 3.0ghz dualcore, 2GB ram so it could be that alone making the difference...but I can't see why. Loli is also slightly slower than Virtual Dub but slightly faster than Batman. batman runs through some sort of pre-pass even on single pass that I cannot seem to disable even through the custom encoding settings. I did let Batman run overnight on the 2 pass setting and was happy to see that I can FF with it, so I think I will just convert movies at night before bed since I tried everything with the MZ encoder and VD

Here is how to fix it i did it too and it works fine done in 1 minut


after you made you movie whit virtual dub do this:

Step 1: This is VirtualDub's window. Just click File -> Open Video File and open the AVI file that contains your DivX video.


Step 2: Time for some settings! Select Video and make sure that Direct stream copy is selected.

Step 3: Now select Audio and make sure that Source audio and Direct stream copy are selected.

Step 4: Now click the highlighted button to go to the last frame..

Step 5: (1) Divide the frame number with 2 and write down the result. In this situation 145416/2 = 72708. Then click button (2) and after that button (3).

Step 6: Now go Edit -> Go to...

Step 7: Select Jump to frame number and write down the value you found before. Click OK.

step 8: Now click the highlighted button.

Step 9: Select File -> Save as AVI and save the first part of the movie.

Step 10: After saving click button (1) and after doing that button (2).

Step 11: Then click button (1) and then button (2).

Step 12: Now select again Save as AVI and there you go!


Source: dvd-guides.com

See, now thats awsome. Thanks very much, I will try that as soon as I get home. its funny, by using the search utility you cannot find the other fast-foward thread by using "fast", "fast foward" or even "fast fowarding"...but then today it appeared under the similar threads section at the bottom of this one...go figure. Thanks a bunch though, have some + rep

here the orig thread incase anyone else needs more info too
Fast Forwarding in Videos bugged?

I just used my mind and google:P