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Old 10-25-2007   #31 (permalink)
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I really do hope Linux or Rockbox will be avaialable for the M6. I tried it on an iPod lately and it adds a new dimension to the player. There are countless things you can do. If we can add a donation link to the front page, I wouldn't be surprised if in a month, we have enough money to buy a M6 to send it to the developers at Rockbox.
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Old 10-25-2007   #32 (permalink)
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I really do hope Linux or Rockbox will be avaialable for the M6. I tried it on an iPod lately and it adds a new dimension to the player. There are countless things you can do. If we can add a donation link to the front page, I wouldn't be surprised if in a month, we have enough money to buy a M6 to send it to the developers at Rockbox.
hey, that's a great idea!
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Old 10-25-2007   #33 (permalink)
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I really do hope Linux or Rockbox will be avaialable for the M6. I tried it on an iPod lately and it adds a new dimension to the player. There are countless things you can do. If we can add a donation link to the front page, I wouldn't be surprised if in a month, we have enough money to buy a M6 to send it to the developers at Rockbox.
I've read a few things on the Rockbox forums and from what I understand is that there is no actual set of "developers" that you could send a M6 to.

Usually what happens is a person/persons who already own a certain media player, will do the hard work in reverse engineering and creating a basic firmware, which can then be used by the Rockbox people who will have a less difficult job of implementing a version for that media player.

I may be wrong but I think thats how it works.

I think a more useful venture to persue instead of comming up with funds for a player, would be to petition Meizu to release the full spec and source code of the M6 to allow the possibility to Rockbox being ported over.
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Old 10-25-2007   #34 (permalink)
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all this only seems like a dream at the moment. how can anyone make this into a reality or how would any one be able to?
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I'll follow you if you want to do this... But keep in mind that we're definitifely not the only ones who want this, I think many people want their player firmware became open source, so why they are so few firmware in open source ???
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Well. thats a very good question. Many people want credit for their work and simply do not want everyone else taking their work and improving it making a profit. on the other hand. people like you and i who personally are not amazing at software writing or that kind of things would benefit greatly from other's work without paying anything at all. Ubuntu...made by linux is one of the most used...thing. its because its so easy to customize and its free and quick. i hope that kind of answers your question. please if you dissagree with me, feel free to correct. thanx
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Can someone please give me a bit more information about linux, i know what it is but i dont know how it works. thanx
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I think many people want their player firmware became open source, so why they are so few firmware in open source ???
Very simple. You may damage your player by using another firmware. So there is no warranty anymore and you probably have to pay for the repair. You'll tell that to your friends and they will probably not buy a product of this company.

Next argument against open firmware: People of other companies will use this firmware for their players (very simple ripoff, they buy the hardware once and rebuild it) and therefore they can sell their players with the same features for less money.

So a non-open firmware is to protect the company which invented this firmware. It's closed to make sure that this company gets money for their work.

And this is totally fine! I support that!



(And don't come with "Linux is free" - sure, it's free - and it's free of charge. So you can't lose money)
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Very simple. You may damage your player by using another firmware. So there is no warranty anymore and you probably have to pay for the repair. You'll tell that to your friends and they will probably not buy a product of this company.
Bullshit. You are very much aware that you bricked your player by messing around with stuff your not supposed to.

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Next argument against open firmware: People of other companies will use this firmware for their players (very simple ripoff, they buy the hardware once and rebuild it) and therefore they can sell their players with the same features for less money.
You would need exactly the same hardware. That's illegal even in China. They could use snippets of the code for certain hardware etc., but if it's licensed under the GPL they would need to open-source their entire firmware aswell.

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So a non-open firmware is to protect the company which invented this firmware. It's closed to make sure that this company gets money for their work.
Again bullshit. Money is made on selling the hardware, there are numerous M6-clones in China and eventhough Meizu reigns.

The opposite could be through: Open firmware is a pro. Look at the popularity of rockbox or iPodLinux for example. Sales could actually increase.

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Bullshit. You are very much aware that you bricked your player by messing around with stuff your not supposed to.
No. People will try to get a free repair though. I've seen a lot of people doing things on their hardware and then, when they damaged it, tried to get a new one for free. There was even one person who drilled holes!!! into his wlan router and he claimed free repair!


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Again bullshit. Money is made on selling the hardware, there are numerous M6-clones in China and eventhough Meizu reigns.
Writing the software: x people for x months. They want their salary, too. So with every sold piece of hardware you will pay for the salary of the software developers, too.
If a company doesn't have to pay for the software they can build the same player and can sell it for less money. So the first company which developed the software will not sell their players anymore because they can't offer the same price because there are more people who want to get their salary.

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The opposite could be through: Open firmware is a pro. Look at the popularity of rockbox or iPodLinux for example. Sales could actually increase.
Yeah, for sure. Try selling an mp3player without software. Only the hardware but no mp3 playback. Good luck!
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