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Old 02-01-2008   #1
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It is working again!

Hi guys! Unbelieavble , but I got my M3 to be live again
I almost stopped to believe , but it seems miracle can always happen Well, I'd like to say thanks to all who dealed with my trouble. I know I can't tell all the names (as I would probably forget somebody), but anyway - U know to whom my my thanks is concerned Of course, I feel necessity to tell U what I did (of course it doesn't mean it has to work for those who are in the same trouble as I was, but maybe my post wil help at least to some of them... So, here is my progress:
1) I did everything what the Hungarian guy Adikosa proposed - including renaming the file "SST39VF800.dfu" to "S5L8700 Rev.1". But there was always a problem that even if my computer found DFU device and I started downloading it disconnected me after a few moments. I believed that it was due to the value of a delay which is set in the INI file, so I increased the value. But always the same results. Then a guy from Jamaica with nickname Roryrudy wrote that even if this happens it is ok, if it happens (the disconnecting) during "downloading image 2" But my meizu was always disconnected before that when the image one was downloaded. So always no progress. But then I also read advice of the guy with a nickname wpyh. Again no progress - (which of course doesn not mean that his piece of advice cant help to someone - of course it can. Anyway all the procedures seemed to me more like some woodoo ))) so I wouldn't be surprised if my solution worked for somebody, another solution worked for somebody else) Ok, keep describing a technical procedure not my personal opinion: The thing is that I held M button and Power button simultaneously for many seconds before i connected it to usb (maybe 10 or more). Then I connected it and this time i was disconnected later then usual! (usually I also just pushed M button and Power button together and in the next second i conected it to USB) And what was the result? This time it disconnected me during "downloading image 2". So, having a memory of Jamaican guy I let it be for some time and then disconnected the cable... And? The Jamaican guy was damn right! If the dfu is disconnected during "downloading image 2" it should be ok...
well as I was not very technician above, here is my opinion of the situation. But please, take into the account that it is my own opinion and even if I am technicaly educated it doesn't mean it has to be right,ok? So,as I see it ,I think that
during pressing M button and power button some capacitors in the player are being charged from the battery. So the longer those 2 buttons are pressed simultaneously the bigger capacity the capacitor has (of course there is some maximum). And then when the dfu is connected to usb and the firmware upgrade starts the capacitor is discharged. Then it just depends when the capacitors are empty and the dfu is then disconnected from usb. If it happens during "downloading image 1" than KO , if it happens during "downloading image 2" it is Ok...

well as i said it is just my own opinion , definitelly doesnt have to be correct! But I rather use this explanation than the woodoo anyway
Good luck to all of you who are or gonna be in the same trouble!

Tomas

Ps:Again big thanks to those 2 named guys above and also users wpyh, hx12

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Old 02-01-2008   #2
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Good to hear stories about reviving "dead" players
I like the way you said "a hungarian guy did this...than a jamaican guy did that" haha, good story :D

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tomik, that was well done. I was laughing when i was reading it.
LOL
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hi tomik,
that really sounds incredible to me but i will follow your advise and will test it tomorrow with my m3.
just one question: apart from the "special treatment" in the very beginning (hold m/play for about 10 sec before plugging it in) you did the same procedure as ADIKOSA had explained it or did you change any settings, file names etc...

thanks in advance and i will keep you update about my success...

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Old 02-03-2008   #5
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hi tomik,
that really sounds incredible to me but i will follow your advise and will test it tomorrow with my m3.
just one question: apart from the "special treatment" in the very beginning (hold m/play for about 10 sec before plugging it in) you did the same procedure as ADIKOSA had explained it or did you change any settings, file names etc...

thanks in advance and i will keep you update about my success...

rgds. hx12
Well, I tried many changes, but it didn't work. So when the success appeared, it had the same settings as Adikosa proposed.... (so the only what I changed was the name of DFU file which was quite logic as when the DFU is connected the name of DFU device is "S5L8700 Rev.1") Good luck and do not lose your hope. Tom
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hi tomik,
also your last hint did not work. actually there is no difference to all the attempts i made before.

it is still voodoo!!

i am tired to spent hours to get this piece of hardware work again. i am going to buy me a new one - for sure it will never be again a meizu. this is really ridiculous.

thanks anyway for your efforts.
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Old 02-04-2008   #7
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the last time someone gave up from here, i spoke to him over msn messenger and we fixed it in no time. I would do it but i have the m6, theres a difference. I thing you should talk to someone by instant messaging who is good at this.
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Old 02-04-2008   #8
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Don't give up. Yep, to be honest I almost went crazy and it was one of the last attempts (and fortunately it worked). So if U want, here is my ICQ number: 341 571 658 and we can try 2gether... Tomas
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guys, just in case anyone is interested what the hell the DFU abbreviation stands for, here U can read more: USB DFU - OpenMoko
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@hx12: Well, I can only say, just keep trying. Initially I didn't have much success, but I kept trying and I've revived my M3 twice!

@tomik: I'm from Indonesia I think by holding the buttons for 10 seconds, the player is readied for DFU. I think there's a delay between holding both buttons and the player being ready for DFU, so if you connect it to the computer before it is ready, it will give up and disconnect.
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unbelievable. finally i managed it. how?
well, i gave it a last try and used another PC (before that i have used my XP desktop and my vista laptop). it was my colleagues pc actually the same model as mine with similiar setup. however with that PC it worked right from the beginning. so it is maybe something with the USB ports or any config setting of windows which caused all the problems.

so if someone has trouble in downloading the firmware to the m3 using dfu tools, my hint is: use as many different PCs as possible. it is very likely that on one of them it might work...

however which one it will be is still voodoo...

anyway i hope that the m3 does not require more often firmware downloads in such a manner...


so, many thanks again to tomik, wpyh and roryrudy who gave me support and who encouraged me NOT to give up.

by the way: my successful download did not require pressing the buttons 10 sec before plugging in... so the m3 and the dfu keep their secrets of successful downloading...
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It's really cool that players become working again.
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thank you and regards of course also to you, ADIKOSA.
who posted the initial rescue procedure in this forum.

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Its good to hear that your player is back on track.
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Yep, I am glad u also mannaged, however I also hope it was my last need of such huge effort to fix mine On the previous page I placed a link where U can read about DFU USB. There u can also download a PDF with full technician specification (but it is really the reading for "technically demanding" people ) I skimed it as I wanted to find out what is the reason for disconnecting DFU USB from computer, but I haven't found it. There is written (page 17,18) u have to specify what to transfer, where to transfer, there is written the image is divided into many parts and sent to the device stepwise, the delay is a time period within the device can enter to DFU mode, but nothing about disconnecting. But maybe I just didnt notice it. If anyone is interested and mannage to find the reason, I would be glad to see "meizu resuscitation" withdraw from the woodoo cult But one thing like a reaction to "hx12" post as he wrote he had to try more computers. I agree I also had to use 2 as on one of them it didnt work at all... So probably something with Windows... Do not really know...

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Thanks to you TOMIK it had worked well.
I try during 3 hours last night to ressucite my girlfriend 's M3.
I used DFU tools but I never havM3 connected to DFU TOOL.
So I try to connect it as fast as possible and i saw that it had disconnected very fast.
So i try your solution, pressing M and Play during 20 seconds berfore connecting it and i could downloadnearly 60% of the first image.
Si i made just 2 tries with different amount of time pressing M and Play and DFU tool dwonload the first image entierly and the M3 work well.

So thank you very much it helps me and may be other peole.
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Thanks to you TOMIK it had worked well.
I try during 3 hours last night to ressucite my girlfriend 's M3.
I used DFU tools but I never havM3 connected to DFU TOOL.
So I try to connect it as fast as possible and i saw that it had disconnected very fast.
So i try your solution, pressing M and Play during 20 seconds berfore connecting it and i could downloadnearly 60% of the first image.
Si i made just 2 tries with different amount of time pressing M and Play and DFU tool dwonload the first image entierly and the M3 work well.

So thank you very much it helps me and may be other peole.
You are absolutely welcome, I am glad it worked
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Hi Tomik,

I'm desperately trying to rebboot my M3.

I have all the tools needed, but when i configure dfu, what file must i put image 1 and which one on image 2 ?

I've downloaded the file 2004.3 and decompress it. That gave me to file :
the first is reource.bin and the second is M3.ben. When I configure my dfu tool, the m3.ben file is automatically applied to image 2, and the image 1 is blank. I've tried to apply the resource.bin file but a message appear saying it's the wrong file. So i'm waiting for your help.
Thank you
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Apply the m3.ebn file for now, and finish the DFU without resource.bin. After the firmware is loaded, it should have a green screen that says to update your firmware. Plug the player back in and copy resource.bin to the root of the player.
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Thanks for replying o promptly Tomik,

I follow your advice and at the end of downloading my M3.EBN, about three minutes after , on the last line of DFU, the status line yhere is a message as : "Enumerating". Does that mean the downloading is over ? Thanks
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