e-books, lyric sync and zoom

moogle301 · 01-14-2007

heya
i was wondering what an e-book is. i think it is a pdf file but i might be wrong. maybe it is a txt. file?
i do not know

i am hoping pdf cos then i could read 8-bit thatre comics!!! (okay but probabl y the screenis too small, and is there a zoom?)
also lyrics sync? how does that work. is it so much hassle you may as well learnt he lyrics? or not

thankees

edit: i founsd this pic of text viewing:
http://www.pinoyreklamo.com/review%2...eader%2020.jpg

it looks snazzy.. but it still didnt helpe me understand...........

edit (again): also is the battery removable...

and is it very bad that i would ahve to void the thingy by getting radio *unfair*.. maybe i will get one sent in by a realtive from america = cheaper too... yeht hat part wasnt a question i guess

DChronos · 01-14-2007

For now, the miniPlayer can only display .txt text files.

The battery isn't removable, but it shouldn't mater too much, at least for 3 years. Read this thread for info about the battery and how to take care of it (it's not that hard, mainly, charge it often from a partial charge is the point) Lithium Battery FAQ & Care Tips

Radio is only removed on Dane-elec branded miniPlayers, but if you buy one that is a Dane-elec one, you can get the radio back and get rid of volume restrictions by updating the firmware to the latest Meizu firmware on the official Meizu site (not the Dane-elec firmware). It says to get the latest firmware updates from Meizu, so even if something goes wrong and you send it back without the Dane-elec firmware, there is nothing that Dane-elec can do to stop you from getting it replaced because it says to go to Meizu. Their screw-up is your gain. ^_^

01-14-2007

If you're interested in e-books and full fledged e-book readers, I can highly recommend Mobileread or get a start on Wikipedia.

moogle301 · 01-14-2007

thanks, i guess txt. it stilil quite cool (im quite chuffed i guessed the file correctly as i am not good at that side of things), it means i can look at wstuff ive written like shoppinglists or memrise stuff or whstver....

thats good about ther radio, you made it sound like there are ones which arent made/sold by Dane-elec??

why would they rescrict volume?? i dont mind cos i lsiten fairly quiet but stil..
and i will check out the place you said thanks

thanks too about the other links sea2stars

and chronos - cool logo, whats the name chronos about? makes me think of chrono trigger

DChronos · 01-14-2007

Thanks! ^_^ My original username was Dark Chronos a long time ago.

Anyway, Dane-elec is mainly sold in Europe, as far as I've seen. The volume is restricted to 33 instead of 40 due to laws over there. The radio was also removed in that version so they could avoid import costs, or something like that.

You don't need to worry much about it, but if you don't want any worries, just make sure it's not a Dane-elec one when you buy it.

Job · 01-15-2007

The battery is NOT removable but as stated above thats no problem as it has great battary life and so should last a long while. Probably far beyond the point that you buy a new player.

If you load the original firmware onto the Dane-Elec players you void the warranty.

This means that by activating the radio and removing the volume limit you give up the right to any service/repairs.

moogle301 · 01-15-2007

If you load the original firmware onto the Dane-Elec players you void the warranty.

This means that by activating the radio and removing the volume limit you give up the right to any service/repairs.[/quote]

well i actually like the volume limit cos i know how easy it might be to accidently make the volume on full and hurt my ears,
say i did void it and can choose to get the radio, can i keep the volume limit?

also I could get radio by getting my meizu sent by my cousiin in america.. is there anyobvious disdvantages from that?? like it wouldnt work over here or something?

edit: also is there any ocver plan for it it gets lost or stoelen or anything? or afor if it is broken after a year?

DChronos · 01-16-2007

There's nothing wrong with having one sent over to you, but as far as the players are concerned, they are all the same except for the firmware. Dane-elec WILL be releasing their own firmware updates, because according the the reply to someone's e-mail in another post, they HAVE to if they state to update from Dane-elec. In other words, install the firmware you want when you get it. As long as you don't forget to reinstall Dane-elec firmware if something goes wrong, noone will ever know you used other firmware.

I don't think Meizu warrants the players for a year, and doubt there is a plan to buy, either. As far as the volume limit is concerned, it's in the firmware, so you can't get radio and keep the volume limit. I say it's good to not have it be limited because some music you may have might be a lot quieter than other music. I have a bunch of music that was recorded at a lower volume level than my other songs, so you can hardly hear it in slightly noisy areas if the volume isn't on full. You can only hear well it when it's quiet. If anything, just don't turn the volume up so loud it hurts your ears and you'll be fine, or just remeber that 33 is the highest you should go if you want the limit kept in. Just don't go over 33, and it will be the same thing.

Job · 01-16-2007

yes you can

you can upload the Meizu firmware and setthe volume limit yourself.
The max of the player is 40. By usingthe setting menu you can set it to max out at the same 33 or 30 or whatever you like

The disadvantage of ordering from the US, if youre european that is, is that the warranty is not valid in Europe. Meaning you will have to send it back to the US for fixes. Also, they might charge you import taxes upon arrival of the item. This is usually around 20%. Besides that there is the more expensive and less reliable postage

you will just have to balance outthe pros and cons.
Power wise it doesnt make any diffrence as the player can be charged through USB. Of course, american wall chargers do not work in Europe

DChronos · 01-16-2007

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I wonder if the wall charger is made to work in both countries, too, since it's being sold officially over there and over here. I also forgot that there is a volume limiter built in that you can set. ^_^;

Job · 01-16-2007

i doubt the wall charger willw ork in both countries as the US outlets still uses the 110 volt system while europe is at 220 and the US has diffrent plugs.

However, if its an adapter and it can take both 110 and 220 and comes with extension plugs(like the Archos players do) it should work

moogle301 · 01-16-2007

thanks, thats good info, though i dont get dan alec thingy completely. are all european players dane-alec?
also isnt there a volunmm eleveller thing you could do to sort out your music so you dont have to keep adjusting the voulme. im pretty sure itunes and wmp have it
DChronos, you use the '^_________^' smiley as much as me!

and the wall chagergers they sell? i thouight they addapter the USB port or something.. since USB be is the same doesnt that mean i just have to buy the correct wall charger (it doesnt come free right?)

Job · 01-16-2007

Dane elec pretty much is just the distributer of the Meizus outside of China.
This goes for Europe and also the US and Canada(and probably more places)
The players from these countries are made by meizu but sold by dane elec..
The firmware had to be adjusted to live up to legal standards in different areas.
For example..in some european countries there is a max. volume limit for mp3 players.
Thats why the European Meizu comes with a volume limit, the american Meizu doesnt.

Technically the normal Meizu and the Dane Elec distributed Meizu are EXACTELY the same.

As for the volume... I dont have any problems with diffrent volumes of diffrent songs. They all play at the same, stabile volume

ps: yes if you buy a USB-wallcharger that should work
but like you say... it has to be the right one as diffrent countries have diffrent plugs

DChronos · 01-17-2007

There isn't any kind of automatic volume adjustment for songs, but that would be an awesome feature.. auto Normalizes all songs to the current volume level. Unfortunately, this player doesn't have that.

Also, I guess Job is right about Dane-elec selling all over, but they aren't the only ones selling players outside China. Europe is the only place I know of so far that has this volume limit set to 33. I'm not sure about radio being removed from all Dane-elec players, but I have heard of mp3 being removed... though that was easily bypassed by updating the firmware from Meizu. I don't know if that is still going on or not, though... but I doubt it, since I haven't seen it brought up lately.

Job · 01-17-2007

yep...seems like europe is the only place withthe volume limit
the mp3 problem has been solved since Dane Elec is selling the players for Meizu i believe as Dane Elec has the licence.
All Dane Elec versions lack radio I think

Changingthe firmware will void the Dane Elec warranty.
On the other hand...if youre a radio fan it might be worth it

ps: aboutthe volume normalizer... i thinkteh reason i dont have that problem is because Winamp or Itunes(in my Ipod days...heheh) did it for me
Must say also before I had teh Ipod i used Archos mp3 players and I didnt have any problems with that either... hmmm maybe i should go get my ears checked

world2002traveler · 01-17-2007

I have a Dane Electric and I have the radio on mine, and no volume limit.

WT

Job · 01-17-2007

in that case you or someone else put new firmware on it

Dane Elec players from Europe come with no radio and with volume limit of 33 if i am correct

DChronos · 01-18-2007

If you get a lot of music from iTunes, then all the songs from there are probably already normalized by the people that encode4 the files for iTunes. Otherwise, most music tends to be normalized, especially anything official. I have a bunch of music I recorded myself, though, so I never ran any normalizing on it, so some songs are a lot quieter than others due to that.

If having all your music normalized to a certain level, so they never need to have the volume adjusted, then I know there are programs that can mass-normalize your entire music collection. I've even heard there are programs that can analyze all tracks on the list you give it, find the maximum sound level played in the entire list, and normalize all songs to that level, so the loudest track will never have clipping of the sound. Try searching around www.download.com for one. Read reviews and info, and make sure it's freeware before downloading, though.