J.Wong reply on 1 Oct

waja2000

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 14:55:00的发言：
设计m8的时候没考虑成本,只考虑性能.
但魅友主要是学生和年轻的白领,所以要考虑大家能消费得起的心理价位，只有尽量想办法降低成本

Went design M8 we not consider cost, just consider on performance.
But Meizu fans mostly student and White-collar, so must consider all people afford to spend at heart（thinking）of price , so we will try hard to cut down the cost.

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:12:00的发言：
m8不支持普通的MLC FLASH,
而采用和sd/mmc卡接口相同的moviNAND(三星叫moviNAND,东芝/镁光叫别的名字,其实是一样的东西),成本比较高

M8 not use(support) normal MLC flash, but use samsung moviNAND which same use in sd/mmc card interface. and cost more higher.

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:29:00的发言：
如果超出心理价位太多,再好的机器买不起还是买不起啊

if price (M8）slot more than people heart of price, how good phone also can't afford to buy by people. (he think china people）

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:34:00的发言：
大家应该先说能接受最高多少的价格,我再告诉大家怎样的性能,呵呵

all fans must say what is higher price can accept, than i will tell you what the performance. (he come out a thread for vote the acceptable price for M8)


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:40:00的发言：
RMVB也要钱的,而且授权费还不低,
给钱就能做到vga尺寸的rmvb流畅

RMVB need money and Authorized license and is not cheap,
if pay money than able to play Smooth rmvb in VGA size.
（JW means need pay to real to get play smooth rmvb in VGA size）

note， currently trail unit M8 tested found able to play rmvb but not smooth.


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:44:00的发言：
价格太低rmvb就自己升级去
或者升一份收一份钱


if we sell lower price of M8， owner need to upgrade（install）it self to play rmvb，or owner need pay to get real upgrade by Meizu。

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:47:00的发言：
office view也要钱,这个好像不是所有人都需要,打算以后升一份收一份钱

Office view also need money（Authorized license），and not required by every one, so we plan owner need pay to get software。


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:51:00的发言：
心理价位,最高承受价位,意思是魅友最高能消费得起的价位,跟性能配制无关啊
heart of price, accepted higher price means meizu fans most can afford of price, and not related to performance/Spec.


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 15:54:00的发言：
我们不会出几种配制不一样的型号,所以才综合考虑魅友的最高接受价格
We will come out few different packages of M8, that why we will consider meizu fans most acceptable higher price of M8.


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 16:00:00的发言：
这不好说,光软件降低不了很多成本
Software (license cost) actually can't cut the cost down too much.

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 16:03:00的发言：
看大家多数能接受的价格呀

i come out a thread to see how much people can accept price(M8)

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 16:05:00的发言：
做到最好大多数人买不起咋整
if we make best mobilephone， most people can't afford to buy.

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 16:23:00的发言：
目前m8我最不满意的就是后壳与BYD电池外观工艺不怎样
currently i not Satisfy with rear cover(M8) and BYD batteries out look just so so only. BYD=china batteries supplyer

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 17:32:00的发言：
实际上就是一张缩小体积的sd/mmc卡

MoviNAND actually same like a scale down of SD/MMC card


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 17:47:00的发言：
“而且成本也更低廉”可能是指整机厂商开发的成本吧(基本是屁话,要能支持普通mlc,才不用贵死的mov inand呢)

目前的价格很高,相当于2颗同容量的普通mlc价格,再加上税,再加上工厂利润和经销商利润,16GB比8 GB贵500元了


currently MoviNAND price very high, 1 unit equal to 2 unit MLC flash price, add the tax， factory process profit， and re-seller profit，so 16GB m8 price will higher 8GB about 500rmb （about 70-80USD）


以下是引用o00o00o00o在2008-10-1 17:58:00的发言：

MINISD卡，呵呵，那M8 为什么不直接在电池下面再加个MINISD卡槽呢？

minisd card， why not m8 just add a Minisd slot ？

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 18:01:00的发言：
SD/MMC卡位置太大放不下，minisd/tf卡你查一下8GB/16GB要多少钱？
而且加个卡座还挺麻烦的

SD/MMC slot to big and not place to put, minisd/tf card you batter check what is 8GB/16GB price? and and add a slot also very Troublesome.


关与M8版的QQ'
related to QQ , A china popular IM

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 18:08:00的发言：
很对不起,自从上次接触过对方要求在其网站投相应广告(或联合广告推广)后就一直没再联系
我们会在比较长的时间内不会有太大的投广告预算

very sorry, after we contact the Tencent （QQ owwer）they required put advertisment on their website, or join advertisment, after that we not contact anymore. we(meizu) in quite long period will not have big advertisment budget.


以下是引用J.Wong在2008-10-1 18:15:00的发言：
规格只能作为参考,现在我发现芯片厂商的公开的规格书大多是不可信的,里面夹杂有很多文字/技术游戏,
以后我们新开发的芯片在重要规格上要叫芯片厂商签字确认才能放心

Spec just a guideline, now we found IC company annouce spec mostly not trusted, in side spec alot of word/technical game only. after this in new development of product, we will required IC company to signature to comfirm the spec that we can feel relieved.

The Torminator

Nice post.
But the M8 will not have an SD/MMC slot?
Why didn't they try out a MicroSD slot? It's so much smaller, but it's properly more expensive, I don't know. I see they don't like M8 become too tough for the wallet.

Jubre

Oh, he can't ask them to vote without saying which specs correspond to what price. Sounds like he plans to cut things out last minute to fit with budget (although to be fair, no official spec sheet was released to begin with.)

Oh well, I guess we will find out more as the month progresses.

waja2000

they try to cut down meterial cost and Software license cost or profit to fit price which affordable to purchase buy meizu fans （china market）

nice2know_u

Thanks for the translation, waja2000. I hope they don't change the hardware now as it's "almost" on sale...

If anyone is interested here's the "design plan" for the task manager:

DusL

A task manager on the m8.....

I do hope wince is coded well enough to avoid your phone slowly crashing itself as you load and (manually I guess) unload apps. Running too many apps at the same time gives the same result.

Am I understanding correctly that they finally gave us another releaseperiod? :D

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nice2know_u

I really hope they didn't...
Here's a pic from the bbs posted by some tester (I'll never understand these "spy shots" they are always from the worst angle possible...):

adamL

the "M" on the looks weird..o_0

nice2know_u

Weird as in photoshopped or as in ugly? I don't think it's fake.

adamL

just ugly not photoshopped this one is good but it have a bad finition lol