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Old 06-14-2008   #21 (permalink)
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but they have shown prototypes.
You are so biased it even hurts to read.

Where is the working prototype?

Something close to the final hardware, in a case resembling the final form-factor.
Not a testing board only capable of showing still images.
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The working prototype LOL. My youngest brother could do that, what they showed in cebit. It was more like working clone toy for kids of ipod touch, without functions.
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The iPhone isn't the king of smartphones because it isn't even a smartphone. The N95 on the other hand, is a smartphone. The M8 does exist. Please do your research before you say stupid stuff like that. It is not a commercially available product, but they have shown prototypes.
The prototype was a case with a screen and didn't function at all really.
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? The software was barely even started then. I don't know how that is NOT a prototype. Prototypes aren't supposed to be like the finished product, not even close.
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? The software was barely even started then. I don't know how that is NOT a prototype. Prototypes aren't supposed to be like the finished product, not even close.
True...but at the CEBIT, the proto shown was already a big dissapointment, everybody expected something closer to finished product, because Wong while not saying explicitely, was implying that the m8 will be demoed there. and the m8 presented was such an early prototype that this do not really count as a demo.
Worse, just after CEBIT Wong promised a working prototype at the ??? show in China (do not remember the name of the city, sorry), and a video of a working m8 before that. To make up for the CEBIT presentation shortcomings...
Since then, the m8 presence at the china expo has been canceled, and there is zero video floating around. Instead, this has been replaced by renderings of the "final" M8 interface. Not actual photos of the M8 showing this interface, but rendering...while a video was promised...
Sorry, but it can not be clearer that the m8 development is not going smoothly....And besides a test board showing still images, Meizu has said a lot, broken a lot of promises, and shown zero hard evidence of progress nor sticked to any kind of reliable timeline... :-(
If it is not vaporware, I have never seen product development presented so poorly before...

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You are so biased it even hurts to read.

Where is the working prototype?

Something close to the final hardware, in a case resembling the final form-factor.
Not a testing board only capable of showing still images.
Or maybe I'm sick of all the negativity, the Apple fanboys, and the bandwagon fans.
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There isn't that much positive news available for the Meizu fan at the moment, unless you disagree. And seriously, usually there is a reason behind it when people are negative/unhappy about something.

This Meizu behaviour, it's not something trustable to consumers at all. Many people say they don't like the way Apple is running their products, but to go for a Chinese company like Meizu instead doesn't look much of an improvement to me atm. The only difference is that Apple is actually delivering their products, and meizu hasn't proven themselves in any way for the past 18 months.
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Or maybe I'm sick of all the negativity, the Apple fanboys, and the bandwagon fans.
If you knew nothing, i mean NOTHING about the M8 and someone would show you a testing board, with a screen soldered to it showing stills and told you "this is a prototype for a revolutionary smartphone that will surpass existing models like the iPhone, both in features and price"...how could you not laugh??

What would that prototype tell you or show you?
The software was non-existant. The hardware was no where final. The form-factor...speculative.
What would that prototype show you of the final product?
Because if it shows you nothing in the way to the final product, it isn't a prototype...it's a mockup, or whatever name you want to call it.

When you look at that board you see hope, you see something that is slowly moving foward, because you truly (and sometimes blindly) believe in the future and capabilities of the M8.
Someone without that knowledge and faith in this company and product would simply have a good laugh and move on.

That is why that thing they showed was a disappointment to most people, and to many not even worth being called a (working) prototype.

Just to make this on-topic:

The iPhone3G has indeed, clearly overtaken the M8.
Just because it is here, being released all over the world in a few days...gathering huge marketforce, tremendous developer support and in time overcoming some of it's limitations either by sotware updates or thirdparty applications.

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Remember the picture of the board with all of the components on it? Neither of us know if the hardware is final yet.

Prototype - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Often prototypes are built using very limited engineering detail as compared to final production intent."

Also, when did they tell us ""this is a prototype for a revolutionary smartphone that will surpass existing models like the iPhone, both in features and price"?

I didn't know that they told us that. It MIGHT be true, but I don't remember them telling us that.
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Or maybe I'm sick of all the negativity, the Apple fanboys, and the bandwagon fans.
I'm with you on this one.

@ Dark Angel: The "3G" iphone isn't even actually 3G. And if you skip the fanboyism you would realize that there is nothing to brag about in the iphone. It's just a crappy PDA.

I had one to play with, not for a couple minutes, i took it home for a few days. I reinstalled its firmware as it was crashed, unlocked it, then just played with it. I was impressed at first by its looks, but looks alone can't make a great product, at least not for me. And they didn't.

It doesn't even touch the M6SL in sound quality, i fired up my old cheapo Actions MP4 player and it sounded better than the iphone. Also its speaker is... uh... I don't think i could hear it ringing on the street if i wouldn't have the earphones plugged in. Even if i could hear it, it's miles away from my Nokia 6234 and even from my old SE K310i. I have to admit the speaker has good quality, but it ain't good if it ain't loud.

If i was serious about getting a PDA/phone, i'd probably grab a HP.
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