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Old 05-09-2008   #81 (permalink)
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I agree with you Seres83, the thing is that we have been waiting, recieving hope then nothing. For what we have seen, I don"t believe the M8 will be released before end 2008 or begining 2009.
I have been waiting since 2006, I relly believed in it each anouncment, I even believed they would have an engineered device at CEBIT then nothing again.
And MEIZU has been silent for a moment, there is nothing to hang on to.
We can say wait and see but by the time, I think the M8 will only have it's price for itself (asuming that the price is kept wich I also begin to doubt)
The 8GB iphone is being sold for 450 euros here. Yes, it is easily unlockable, but its software crashes often, sound quality is poor, and you can't hear it ringing if it's at more than 10m away.

The M6 had a very stable firmware, if the M8 gets a stable winCE implementation it will be one of its killer points.
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500 euro offline? even so that is still $772! which is over $300 more than a 16gb M8 for a phone with only 4Gb memory only 900mah battery and smaller 262,000 colour screen. It depends what you prioritise though. For me I am interested in the M8 for the main reason it was built....as a media playback device with great codec suport and good sound. If 3G and GPS are your main priorities the M8 is probably not for you. I agree though that the M8 is not real at the moment and only time will tell if it will be a good phone or not. If the M8 is not high quality and has many firmware problems I will probably be considering, the HTC Diamond, Sony Xperia X1 or the Iphone 2. However here in the Uk unless I get a contract all these phones will cost me a lot of money, which is one of the other key reasons I am hoping the M8 will be good. They also wil not offer all the M8's additional features that attracted me in the first place.
No it will be for poor european like us 500 euro , and for you lucky americans 500 usd...

but about 350-400 euro with no contract and an operator unlock
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lol, it will be way more than that for the first two moths, i think you're too optimistic about the price
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Old 05-15-2008   #84 (permalink)
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M8, May be a nice phone, but it's sales will be horrible in America. The 199 Apple & AT&T deal seems like a solid one. For people like us who inspect everything ,yes, M8 Clearly is the better "Over-All" phone but to every day people they want name brands and they want to buy it from a place were if it doesn't work they can return the product and speak to somebody in person rather than calling overseas.

They also want all the gadgets on a phone you can get regardless if you use them or not. You would be surprised to actually know how many people have a smart phone and don't use the calender or appointment book. When you think about it a lot of people want features that for whatever reason later down the road they can add through their cellular provider. The gadgers are a huge desicion factor but, ultimatly I feel that the Brand name and Location of Seller will outweight the gadgets. Unfortunately, for M8 it will come to late and with only a small handful of more options than the newer IPhone.

I actually don't want an IPhone so I may hold off for a Diamond....which is the nail in the coffin for American M8 Success.

Earlier I read were somebody had posted that by the time the M8 is released there would be hundreds of similar phones. Clearly this is an overstatement but there will be several and they will come with well known names from a local retail store.

Still an exciting phone. Kept me from buying an IPhone for a year so If i get a Diamond I still owe the M8 something lol.

If Meizu dropped the price like another poster suggested to 250 USD and did so by August M8 may still have a fighting chance in America.

And no I don't hate Mac or IPhones, I just think its bs I have to pay AT&T to surf my own WiFi or install applications I make to my phone. (Which are issues that the American Legal System are currently considering.)
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What $199 deal are you talking about? I really am not sure why you would say that the sales will be horrible. A person who thinks a name brand product is better will obviously not go for the Meizu. The Meizu will have a 740x480 LCD, that is uncalled for. It's in a class of it's own, when you consider the screen size (plus resolution) and price.
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M8, May be a nice phone, but it's sales will be horrible in America. The 199 Apple & AT&T deal seems like a solid one. For people like us who inspect everything ,yes, M8 Clearly is the better "Over-All" phone but to every day people they want name brands and they want to buy it from a place were if it doesn't work they can return the product and speak to somebody in person rather than calling overseas.

They also want all the gadgets on a phone you can get regardless if you use them or not. You would be surprised to actually know how many people have a smart phone and don't use the calender or appointment book. When you think about it a lot of people want features that for whatever reason later down the road they can add through their cellular provider. The gadgers are a huge desicion factor but, ultimatly I feel that the Brand name and Location of Seller will outweight the gadgets. Unfortunately, for M8 it will come to late and with only a small handful of more options than the newer IPhone.

I actually don't want an IPhone so I may hold off for a Diamond....which is the nail in the coffin for American M8 Success.

Earlier I read were somebody had posted that by the time the M8 is released there would be hundreds of similar phones. Clearly this is an overstatement but there will be several and they will come with well known names from a local retail store.

Still an exciting phone. Kept me from buying an IPhone for a year so If i get a Diamond I still owe the M8 something lol.

If Meizu dropped the price like another poster suggested to 250 USD and did so by August M8 may still have a fighting chance in America.

And no I don't hate Mac or IPhones, I just think its bs I have to pay AT&T to surf my own WiFi or install applications I make to my phone. (Which are issues that the American Legal System are currently considering.)
What you must remember is the M8's main market is the domestic Chinese market. When you have a domestic market of well over a billion people I don't think the American market would be very high on your list of priorites.

Even if 65% of Chinese people couldn't afford an M8, the amount of prospective consumers is still bigger than the whole of the US. The iphone has also not been released in China and even on the black market is still expensive compared to the what the M8 will be.

I suspect the M8 will be huge in China. And I don't know where you have been buying your smart phones but $250! for a phone like the M8 is very unnrealistic. The Htc diamond can be pre-ordered here in the uk at an offline price of £464.13 which is over $900! >>>

HTC Touch Diamond (PRE-ORDER) from Clove Technology

The only advantage the Htc Diamond has over the M8 is 3G and GPS. Do you really want to spend over twice the price of the 16gb M8 for an HTC Diamond with only 4gb, no card slot, a smaller screen, slower processor, no codec support, no usb-otg, lower res screen blablablah just because it has 3G and GPS? I certainly don't. Don't get me wrong the M8 is untested and the HTC diamond may still prove to be a better option....we will just have to wait and see. Plus the HTC Diamond has not even got a US release date yet.

Also a $199 iphone deal does not exist as far as I'm aware as apple has stopped selling the old iphone in preparation for the 3G iphone release and prices for the 3g iphone haven't been announced (even when they are annonced they will only be online prices, offline prices will be much much higher). And even if a $199 deal does exist that i'm not aware of, an online iphone price is still a pointless and unfair comparison with an offline M8 price. The only iphone prices you should be comparing the M8 with is ebay prices. The M8 will probably still be cheaper than the old iphone offline when it is released anyway.

As you say the M8 is not for people who aren't really interested in tech and just want a handset from a big trusted brand with a warrenty and all the rest of it. You would not even know about the M8 if you had no interest in tech. Plus the M8 will not even be available in America for a very long time (If at all).

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As you say the M8 is not for people who aren't really interested in tech and just want a handset from a big trusted brand with a warrenty and all the rest of it. You would not even know about the M8 if you had no interest in tech. Plus the M8 will not even be available in America for a very long time (If at all).

you are right but as I said in a previous post, the diamond is for real and the M8 has too many shadows. We don't know anything on the advance on the development, they say they want to show it in august, we are half way passed may and we don't even have a decent video or picture.
Don't give me wrong, I have been waiting and hoping since but MEIZU doesn't give us anything to chew on.
The diamond is coming in one month in France, I sold my P3300 two days ago, while I could get a decent price from it, and am back on my old SGH-X460 so understand my frustration.
MEIZU should give us more info because I thing that more time passes, more people (inclueding myself surely) will go for other things.
Hurry up Jack
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Also a $199 iphone deal does not exist as far as I'm aware as apple has stopped selling the old iphone in preparation for the 3G iphone release and prices for the 3g iphone haven't been announced (even when they are annonced they will only be online prices, offline prices will be much much higher). And even if a $199 deal does exist that i'm not aware of, an online iphone price is still a pointless and unfair comparison with an offline M8 price. The only iphone prices you should be comparing the M8 with is ebay prices. The M8 will probably still be cheaper than the old iphone offline when it is released anyway.
Again if you have read CNN, AP News, Wall Street Journal, Engadget, and multiple other sources some of which I have posted here, the Apple I-Phone deal IS REAL!
Let me state that again:

AT&T has CONFIRMED they are going to offer Discount Rates for the NEW 3g Apple I-Phone "AKA Version 2.0"!
It will Start at $199 and go up from there.

"Yes" you do need to sign a contract but as I have stated multiple times getting out of a AT&T contract is rather simple and you still get to keep the reduced priced phone!

AT&T just had a blow out 2 days ago on the refurb Original I-Phones.
The 8gb was $249 and the 16gb was $349
Of course they are gone now as they got snatched up for people to sell overseas and make a bundle.

Anyway I have waited for the M8 but from what is being broadcast now "RUMOR MILL"
The New I-Phone will have a Bigger Screen and offer far more than the original I-Phone.
So when Jobs announces this on June 9th and sales begin June 15th we will see what the new I-Phone will look like and what it will entail goodies wise.
So 24 days from today we will have our answers.


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@dontripmeoff: That may work for Americans. But in Germany you will have to sign a contract before getting handed an iPhone, and after that you can't get out, there is no way. And the contracts are very expensive, at least one M8 every 4 months.
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What $199 deal are you talking about? I really am not sure why you would say that the sales will be horrible. A person who thinks a name brand product is better will obviously not go for the Meizu. The Meizu will have a 740x480 LCD, that is uncalled for. It's in a class of it's own, when you consider the screen size (plus resolution) and price.
You explained what I discussed in your retort. LOL.

I just feel the Iphone and other phones released this fall will bury the M8's sales to a very poor total. I discussed that the Screen will be nice but come on man. Nobody, is gonna find out about meizu and if they do most people have better things to do than to set on a forum week n and out to wait on a phone that keeps getting delayed. The sales in China and Europe will smoke the sales of the M8 in America. Again I could be wrong but I don't think I would be unfounded in my argument.
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