A small M8 education for those losing faith.

sere83

it is said that the 16gb M8 will be around $430. How is this expensive? I am from the Uk and am used to high prices but even in september that will not be expensive for a phone with this feature set. Where will you find a phone with 16gb, a high res large touch screen and wifi plus all the other options the M8 has for this price in september? The Nokia N95 came out ages ago and the cheapest new ones still cost $430 on ebay uk. An new 8gb iphone costs around $470 on ebay uk and the M8 has a higher spec and you get twice the flash memory for this price. Even in 4 monthes I don't think the price will go down that much. And even if the 8gb iphone drops to around $380 by August (they hold their value quite well and are actually becoming rarer as the 8gb version will be fased out), are you saying you still wouldn't pay an extra $50 for the m8's extra memory and features? The market (particularly the high end of it) is really not moving as fast as you think.

darkado

ok, but it's not easy to find the iphone that cheap. you are right about the
m600i it's a great phone i used it for couple of days but bought w950i as a backup phone.

gkai

No, personally I am ready to wait as long as needed until a device that fit me is available at a correct price. iPhone 1 does not fit me. iPhone 2, maybe, but I do not hope too much given Apple past behavior. m8 still seems like it will be the first out that fit MY bill, but who knows, I just keep checking specs of every smartphone that comes out...
Yes, I AM SURE!!! I have seen both screen resolution myself, and used extensively QVGA and VGA. There is no other way to judge that than to check for yourself, and it is true for TV also. Do not believe what mags say, go to a shop and check the screen for yourself, why do people keep repeating the "it's so small you can not tell the difference anyway" for a 3.5, 15, 20 or 32'' screen (pda, laptop, desktop, TV), while it is so simple to compare the two in 5 minutes? And yes, difference between HD ready/ full HD is perfectly noticeable too on 32'' screen: it all depend how far you are, and what kind of content you watch. HD ready is more than fine for watching a DVD or Bluray wtih the whole family on your 32'' from 4-5 meter, no question. Plug your laptop to your TV and start word/openoffice, and you will cry you did not choose a full HD model...
If you want to watch a movie with a "cinema" experience instead of a TV experience (i.e. the screen fill about all your field of vision, instead of a small part of it), and have a high resolution source like HDDVD or bluray, a full HD tv will beat an HD ready TV for any screen size...you will just sit closer of the small screen, that's all...If you can not see the difference sitting at the "cinema" position, I strongly suggest you consult an ophtalmologist ASAP ;-)

midsommer

Funny, that you brought that point.

You must have horrible good eyes as even all members of our Institut does not see any difference on a 42" HD Ready and 42" True HD TV screen - under comparable circumstances. (Ok we stand approx. at 50 cm distance).

We compared them last fall when we got to equip an entrance hall.
My students build them into the masks in the hall (so only the screen were visable, no brand, no signatur if HD Ready or not).

Result: we saw (big) differences between the different HD Ready TV brands (Loews, Sony, Toshiba, Samsung, etc.) and the same was true for the True HD TVs.
But: we choose 15 HD Ready screens as 8 out of 9 of us were more satisfied with one of these. Even the second place we gave to a HD Ready. Third to fifth were True HD TVs.

Sometimes, I am happy with my bad eyes (yes, number 16 of our winner screens is in my room now ) - and I was surprised, that all of my students have them, too.
A pitty, that you have to spend more money to have the same satisfaction I got with lower screen resolution.

BTW: one could really see, that different brands uses the same panels. And, if one has a wonderful HD Ready screen, the brands True HD screen was some times bad and vice versa. Unfortunatelly, the price really was important, so the cheap brands fail totally - but that are only our experiences.

gkai

50cm? Then you should easily be able to see individual pixels on a full HD 42'' screen, with completely normal eyes...but you will have to move your head to get all the picture, I like to be closer to screen than most, but this would be a little bit close even for me :-)
Most probably, many of your panels advertising HD ready were already 1920 X 1080...or your source was not HD.
If you have two panel s sides by side with a HD source (1920 x 1080), and one of them have a physical resolution of 1920x1080 while the other is 1366x768 or less, you should see the difference very easily. Some people may prefer the 1366x768, if they are more sensitive to other parameters like contrast, color saturation or motion handling...but on a static or slow moving image (wildlife documentary are much better a test than fast-action movie), everybody except the severly visually impared should easily identify the HD screen as giving a more detailed, crisp image...

From what I see now, a large majority of LCD TV with a screen bigger than 42'' are 1920x1080 nowadays...As I do not have buyed one yet (I wait for a good source, don't have bluray yet and my cable analogic SD signal is so bad I fear to see it on a larger screen than I have now), I should not pay more, I expect all LCD > 40'' will be full HD at the time I will buy ;-)

All Plasma will not be HD, but, as nice as they are when new, I have seen one of them aging (my parent own one since 4 years)....This experience tipped me toward LCD, definitively ;-)

bcmiguel

I know in the UK it might be more expensive, i live in Canada and I crossed the border and went to the closest Apple store and picked up an iPhone for $399 + tax ($433.91) brought it home unlocked it in 10 min and that was a year ago. But i do see iPhones on ebay going for a lot more, I guess it matters where you live, but this also makes me wonder how the price for the M8 will vary from different locations as well. Ebay is usually known for good deals, i'm on there all the time, but sometimes I find ebay even more expensive then buying it directly from the store.

M8 sounds like a great phone, but I couldn't wait anymore, so I got an iPhone and have been very happy with it, honestly one of the best phones I have ever owned, but i'm sure the M8 will be a great phone also. The warranty thing on the M8, that i don't know about, I knew when I bought my iPhone I was going to void the warranty and had that in mind already and didn't matter to me as every phone I owned only started acting up after the inital 1 year warranty had expired.

In conclusion i'm sure the M8 will be great when it comes out, but someone like me I didn't want to wait anymore so I got the best thing out at that time, and something to remember when the M8 cdoes come out, guess what a few months later something bigger and better will be released and thats a never ending cycle in electronics.

thats my $0.02

SteveMB93

The iPhone hasn't even been out a year... I have a question... how long were you exactly waiting that you got sick of the wait. Obviously not long since you did buy the iPhone a "year" ago.

Skinny101

11 months ago, a year ago. Not that much difference.

I dunno bout this waiting for the M8 though.

bcmiguel

The Meizu M8 goes back to January 2007 around the same time Apple was starting the buzz about their iPhone. A friend of mine who really is into phones told me about these "new style" phones but most talk was about the iPhone as there was more buzz about when it was going to be released and the Meizu M8 was still in early stages of designing and development, but it was suppose to be equivalent to the iPhone and there were many other companies already starting their designs on this style phone as well like the CECT P168.

SteveMB93

Sorry, I thought the iPhone came out on July 29, it was June 29. So that's 10 months. Yes! The good ol' CECT 168. What a great, quality phone that turned out to be! Wait... you don't care if your $400 phone fails after a year of use?