A small M8 education for those losing faith.

gkai · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Traps

Anyway, I agree that 480x320 may be nice for 3.5", but on a home theater system it would look absolutely horrible. And it doesn't make sense to buy the same movie over and over for each device you own.

Well, that depends, I can assure you that for sony, WB, apple or the **AA, "buying the same movie over and over for each device you own" makes a lot of sense. OOOOh yes, a lot of sense indeed ;-)

DAZKILL · 04-28-2008

The meizu m8 is a big vaporware !

good comparison but you forgot : iphone is still released !

And the meizu m8?? we still waiting since 1 year!

Because it was too long to wait, I've already buy an iphone , and I love it.

The first version of the M8 (if it will be released one day...) doesn't support DMB , GPS, 3G... it's just a new iphone comes with more than one year late...

So tell me what's the advantage to buy something, that an other consumer as allready sell? ok , maybe for a cheaper price.

But this M8 is not a revolution !

And this M8 will be old fashion if the iphone 3g got gps.

At the beginning I was really excited to see the M8, but now after months and months of announcement, that's make me think that's it's a born dead project. Guess I'm wrong

M47Z · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by DAZKILL

The meizu m8 is a big vaporware !

good comparison but you forgot : iphone is still released !

And the meizu m8?? we still waiting since 1 year!

Because it was too long to wait, I've already buy an iphone , and I love it.

The first version of the M8 (if it will be released one day...) doesn't support DMB , GPS, 3G... it's just a new iphone comes with more than one year late...

So tell me what's the advantage to buy something, that an other consumer as allready sell? ok , maybe for a cheaper price.

But this M8 is not a revolution !

And this M8 will be old fashion if the iphone 3g got gps.

At the beginning I was really excited to see the M8, but now after months and months of announcement, that's make me think that's it's a born dead project. Guess I'm wrong

Just read the first post and you will see why the M8 IS a revolution!
Why are you sure it won't support for example GPS? I' think the decission is not made yes, is it? and I still hope it will be in!

SteveMB93 · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by midsommer

We speak about the release date in December - not now! There you definitelly find a 32GB microSDHC! And: I use my phone longer then 1 year. It would be idiotic not to include the capability to use such cards.

And iPhone 2 is said to use the same processor - but these are still rumors. But why should they not use a mass product?

Finally: the price of 450 $ for the small m8 is too high! The iPhone will again drop in price after July - belive me (iPhone 2!). Of course: worse screen, but the iPhone screen is fantastic (if the same as the iPod Touch one)! I would not pay more money for the 720x480 resolution. If you would, do it. I can only speak for me. And btw: the SE Xeperia 1 will most likely be out September with 800 x 480. for a price tag of about 900$ In December mostlikely it will be at 700 $. But even then it offer more then the _big_ m8 (aGPs, full office suit, expansion slot, etc.), which price is still unknown and most likely be around 550 - 600 $ (100 to 150 $ more then the small one).

P.S.: in December (end of 2008) the _big_ version of the m8 (front cam, 16 GB) will come - the pricing will be? Well - most likely 550 - 650 $. In such a catagory you will find tons of better phones! Just see the CES anouncements!
Do not speak about FREE phones, jailbreak or debrand them. You can not speak about warranty for the m8 - as long as you do not come from china.

Where did you get $450 from? Are you saying that the Xperia will drop in price in two months, by $200? I think the Xperia is a VERY nice phone, but the price is what I will worry about. Also, will it be unlocked? Isn't the 3G supposed to be here by December? I would gladly play $100 less for a phone with a better resolution, removable battery, and is unlocked out of the box. No need to void your warranty.

I forgot to mention this, but can you get the Xperia in 16GB or does it have a microSD slot? Like I said, the Xperia, I think, will be a very nice phone. But the price will (probably) be high. Can you please tell me of some other phones that will compete with the iPhone/M8? It wouldn't matter where you bought the Meizu, it's covered under warranty. It would take longer if you had to send it to China, no doubt. That's what distributors are for.

DAZKILL: So the M8 will be old-fashioned because it doesn't have GPS? I honestly didn't think it was that important. Are you even aware of the specs of the M8? Get back to me when you do. Well why would I buy it? Not just because it will be cheaper, but because of the removable battery, 6410 processor, unlocked, and the excellent screen resolution.

sere83 · 04-29-2008

whatever anyone says, If the M8 is delivered on time and works well it will represent good value and have some great features. The current spec looks great to me. I'm not interested if it doesn't have GPS, 3G or other additional options high end phones have. As I have said before, why does this phone have to be the most high specd phone on the market? it is certainly not priced like that so why are people expecting it to be? I can gaurantee 100% this phone will certainly not be out of date when it comes out and if it functions well will still be a a strong contender with some great features at a great price, is that not all that matters?

The M8 has always interested me for 1 specific reason. It is the only phone that gives me certain functions I have always wanted in a combined phone and media playing device (usb-otg, drag and drop, codec support, no re-encoding of video, removable bat, wifi etc). Plus no matter what else is on the market, it will still be cheap and will still do a number of things no other phone on the market will do.

I am interested in the M8 for the main reason it was made.....as a media focussed cell phone with rich media functionality. All these people banging on about it not being able to compete with high end cell phones and pda's made by the world biggest manafacturers is irrelevant IMO. IMO the reason to buy the M8 is for the features it has that other manafcturers refuse to put in their phones.

It's like buying any product, you buy the thing that closely caters for your own needs and desires. If you want 3G or GPS etc then the 1st gen M8 is not for you. Go buy something else like a noka or htc device. If you want to use itunes, convert your videos then maybe the iphone is a better option. For me the m8 seems like the best option.

midsommer · 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by SteveMB93

Where did you get $450 from? Are you saying that the Xperia will drop in price in two months, by $200? I think the Xperia is a VERY nice phone, but the price is what I will worry about. Also, will it be unlocked? Isn't the 3G supposed to be here by December? I would gladly play $100 less for a phone with a better resolution, removable battery, and is unlocked out of the box. No need to void your warranty.

I forgot to mention this, but can you get the Xperia in 16GB or does it have a microSD slot? Like I said, the Xperia, I think, will be a very nice phone. But the price will (probably) be high. Can you please tell me of some other phones that will compete with the iPhone/M8? It wouldn't matter where you bought the Meizu, it's covered under warranty. It would take longer if you had to send it to China, no doubt. That's what distributors are for.

DAZKILL: So the M8 will be old-fashioned because it doesn't have GPS? I honestly didn't think it was that important. Are you even aware of the specs of the M8? Get back to me when you do. Well why would I buy it? Not just because it will be cheaper, but because of the removable battery, 6410 processor, unlocked, and the excellent screen resolution.

450 $: I found it on the bbs - but might be due google translations. 450 $ sounds far to much to me, too (Maybe they were talking about the _big_ Version out in December?).

But even the 220 € (= 340 $ ) (posted recently here) for the _small_ m8 is not any revolution at all - not in September! They really should think about reducing the price for not offering any fancy, up to date stuff.

old fashioned? Without GPS, 3G, touch feedback, cardslot, front camera, etc.: that is old fashioned! how would you call this?

Xperia 1: we will see: my m600i fall in price from 550 to 330 € within two month. But future will tell. (IMHO: Xperia will be a big success - so incl. contracts it will be cheap! (I assume the monthly fees to be around 20 € incl 50 MB)). And yes it comes with microSD (Xperia X1 - Smartphone mit Windows-Mobile von Sony Ericsson - Golem.de - GERMAN)

Warranty: Sending them under warranty back to china, you have to pay the transportation! You have no security to get the phone back (simply by the transportation company in china - yes we often send stuff to china - UPS, etc. - some times packages simply vanish), as long as you do not pay extra insurences! I would not try to sue a chinese company only for a phone (even for 500 € - try to find a lawyer for this). Further more: Would you pay roughly 50 € (075 $) for transportation only because some small problems - not thinking about the waiting period. That is not a realistic warranty.

BUT: in Germany you have a 14-day give back guaranty on internet buy (from German stores)! (So please be aware of this, too). :D

finally: for a simple media based phone as the _small_ m8 will be (if ever released), 220 € are totally overpriced: the old iphone (with a lower resolution screen) will be cheaper (actually it is alreay at 220 € now... (for Europeans in NYC

)). AND: Apple prove their qualtity and support - MEIZU not.

The _big_ m8 (hopfully) coming in December, with all the mentioned features should not cost more then 250 € to bring an impact. Do not make arguments like - the new SAMSUNG processor. It will be a mass product by then.

AND: in December I and most technique interested people here will peak on Android (I already can see the threads: howto put ANDROID on the m8). So why Meizu even wasted money and efford for a WM skin? Same with the Opera Browser. I definitelly will NOT use Opera Mobile, not with a 720 x 480 screen! I will download (for FREE) Opera MINI!

PS: Face the fact, that the m8 is designed for the chinese market, without an official iPhone distribition. Even in December this market will be happy about such a phone, while the western world is absolutly used to such devices since 1 - 2 years!

darkado · 04-29-2008

lol, what are talking about, you live in future or something. look behind, i bought my n73 two years ago, TWO YEARS and it's still good, sure they slapped some more mpixels and animated icons, but that's it. 220 euros is not a lot for the m8, it's about the right price. what's the best brand name phone for that price in your opinion?

DAZKILL · 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by M47Z

Just read the first post and you will see why the M8 IS a revolution!
Why are you sure it won't support for example GPS? I' think the decission is not made yes, is it? and I still hope it will be in!

I'm sure there is no gps , no dmb in the first version of the mp8 , you can verified these information in this picture

it was taken from the meizu stand at the cebit

Meizu M8 mini One vs. iPhone... fight! - Engadget

so where is the 3g , the gps , the dmb ????

no where !!!!

sorry but waiting more than 18 month for a poor apple copy with no evolution. I prefer to keep with my iphone.

I'm really waiting a meizu with 3g, dmb and gps , but it's not for now , the iphone 2 released in june will get 3g et gps for sure.

so what's the meizu interest ? just the price...

waiting waiting and nothing come

DAZKILL · 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by SteveMB93

Where did you get $450 from? Are you saying that the Xperia will drop in price in two months, by $200? I think the Xperia is a VERY nice phone, but the price is what I will worry about. Also, will it be unlocked? Isn't the 3G supposed to be here by December? I would gladly play $100 less for a phone with a better resolution, removable battery, and is unlocked out of the box. No need to void your warranty.

I forgot to mention this, but can you get the Xperia in 16GB or does it have a microSD slot? Like I said, the Xperia, I think, will be a very nice phone. But the price will (probably) be high. Can you please tell me of some other phones that will compete with the iPhone/M8? It wouldn't matter where you bought the Meizu, it's covered under warranty. It would take longer if you had to send it to China, no doubt. That's what distributors are for.

DAZKILL: So the M8 will be old-fashioned because it doesn't have GPS? I honestly didn't think it was that important. Are you even aware of the specs of the M8? Get back to me when you do. Well why would I buy it? Not just because it will be cheaper, but because of the removable battery, 6410 processor, unlocked, and the excellent screen resolution.

GPS will be a standard on smartphone at the end 2008, ok for a removable battery , but you'r were ready to wait 18month for that?

sorry you really sure that you can see a difference between 480x320 and 720x480 on 3.4-3.5" ? i'm not sure You might not know that on a tv hd ready 32" and a full hd 32" there's no differences , the differences appears at 37". So for the screen it's not a good argument

midsommer · 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by darkado

lol, what are talking about, you live in future or something. look behind, i bought my n73 two years ago, TWO YEARS and it's still good, sure they slapped some more mpixels and animated icons, but that's it. 220 euros is not a lot for the m8, it's about the right price. what's the best brand name phone for that price in your opinion?

Simply the 8 GB iphone - well - here comes the good support included + qualtiy - but it is more then one year old - got it? And no - I only own a Ipod Toch (but with 32 GB).

And if you are still happy with your n73 - fine. I'am still happy with my m600i (and I am so happy to have 3G - never brows without) - but only as it offerd two years ago features, so that I still can now do stuff most phones can do now for appr. 150 - 200 €. And no - you can absolutly NOT compare the n73 with the m600i. If you are still happy with your n73, you will be happy with the small m8. I do expect more - at least that what the big m8 hopfully will offer in December. But I will not pay more then 300 €.