Apple's iPhone SDK released

Blah · 04-22-2008

Apple - QuickTime - Apple March 6 Event
recently Apple released their SDK software for free.

This could be trouble for the M8, now that the iPhone platform is open.

the m8 should be released soon, they are falling behind.

now all apple has to do is unlock it.

SteveMB93 · 04-22-2008

Is that for Mac only or can you get it for Windows as well? Well it's still the same phone that doesn't have a removable battery and is $500 (16GB).

Skinny101 · 04-22-2008

I'm not an expert, but I don't think the SDK has been released to everyone yet. It has only been released to developers (however as you would expect it has been leaked, but it's really quite useless the the average user at the moment). And while the SDK is free, the people who create the programs/applications will most likely charge for them, but there probably will be some free ones. I'm sure you will be able to use it if you have a Windows OS (it would be stupid not to since a large amount of their users will use Windows, and besides it shouldn't be all that hard since all windows needs to do is transfer the applications to the iPod, not actually run them).

I think yes, a setback for the M8. But those who are already set that the iPhone is shit won't be swayed.

Traps · 04-22-2008

Yes, the iPhone SDK is a big blow on the competition, including the yet-to-be-born M8, but from a software developer point of view, I think WinCE is a better alternative. If you don't believe me just look at Engadget's comparison (damn, why are urls for engadget blocked?), which despite their typical pro-Apple bias shows exactly that.

@Skinny101:
Some people may indeed be convinced that the iPhone is shit, which is just plain stupid: The iPhone is a wonderful device which revolutionized the market, introducing a completely new concept - all due to the innovating UI and sensors, since the processing power was not so revolutionary.

But other people just dislike Apple as a company, due to many factors such as (1) their monopolistic strategy, (2) their closed standards/software approach, (3) the whole "having something from Apple is cool" fashion thing, (4) the way they appeal to consumism, and many others. You may say that this is idealistic, but I think it's our responsibility as consumers to think on these aspects and decide where to put our money based on what kind of world we want to live in.

darkado · 04-22-2008

how can the iphone be revolutionary?! he doesn't have a lot of things that are standard for years

Traps · 04-22-2008

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Originally Posted by darkado

how can the iphone be revolutionary?! he doesn't have a lot of things that are standard for years

Don't get me wrong, I didn't say the iPhone is a revolutionary phone, which it surely is not. And there are far better phones out there which existed even before it came out.

But if you consider it not as a phone but as a new type of convergence device.. then, as the first of it's kind, it is/was a revolutionary device.

darkado · 04-22-2008

it's not even first in some ways but i see what you meant to say

parena · 04-22-2008

I know they get compared a lot, but an iPhone SDK thread should be in a completely different forum, not? Like "Off Topic"?

Skinny101 · 04-23-2008

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Originally Posted by parena

I know they get compared a lot, but an iPhone SDK thread should be in a completely different forum, not? Like "Off Topic"?

This thread isn't about the actual SDK, it is about how the SDK's release will affect the M8

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Originally Posted by Traps

But other people just dislike Apple as a company, due to many factors such as (1) their monopolistic strategy, (2) their closed standards/software approach, (3) the whole "having something from Apple is cool" fashion thing, (4) the way they appeal to consumism, and many others. You may say that this is idealistic, but I think it's our responsibility as consumers to think on these aspects and decide where to put our money based on what kind of world we want to live in.

I guess that is understandable and a personal thing. I don't really care about the company's approach to business (personally). I care about the quality of the product and what benefit it would have to me, and it's price and go for what i think is the best product with a reasonable price. I guess you could say *you the consumer* don't like Apple for the reasons you mentioned, but then Meizu is making a copy of the iPhone (doing their best to stay within copyright laws etc) so are their ideals really that much better. I'm not saying i don't like Meizu though, just making a point. Meizu have taken Apple's unique product (the iPhone) and are making their own version which will have better specs (but how long since the iPhone release?) and make money off it. Ethically is Meizu that much better than Apple?

But that really doesn't touch on any of your points now that i look back lol, but still on the topic of Apple or Meizu, and BTW i still like the M8

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Originally Posted by darkado

how can the iphone be revolutionary?! he doesn't have a lot of things that are standard for years

Well there wasn't really any phones that were like the iPhone before. I can't recall a phone before the iPhone which just had a screen and no buttons. It is quite different to your traditional phone. But even with that i personally would prefer an N95 over it or a K850i because they have better specs apart from the touch screen.

darkado · 04-23-2008

first of all meizu is not trying to copy, iphone is not the dirst ts phone!!! htc had alot of ts phones with just call and hang up button. so are you saing apple copied the iphone design? let me answer that, they didn't, but you can't bash any other phone with ts for being a clone out of pure ignorance and fanboyism.