Meizu Opens Flagship Store

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Believe it fools. When Jobs is out, so will Apple. It's just right around the corner.

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Those fans of the half-eaten, rotten fruit seem to be as arrogant, will-less and religiously blinded as the scientology people are.

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Nah, Apple will still be there, coz they already prepared for S. Jobs' demise by doing a sales channel deal with Wal-Mart, the all-time hallmark of C-O-O-L! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ...

European

Buddy, what Americans usually lack is the sense of time (no wonder, child-aged nation).

Well, starting a real business is a difficult task, and the beginnings are hardly glorious....The British started their "innovation" with piracy (robbing the silver and gold ships of Spain) and opium smuggling (to China). They have stolen tea from China and planted it to Kashmir.

The Americans robbed Calfornia, Texas and New Mexico, and imported millions of black slaves from Africa in order to maintain their colonial way of life. The actual hegemony of US made high tech started from the end of Second World War, when US Army (in competition with the Red Army) simply robbed the best German scientists including the founders of NASA. Hitler's favourite missile-genius (later a honoured America hero) told about Cold War with cynicism: "Our Germans are better than their Germans"....Furthermore, copying and spying was not necessary because several brain drains were provided for Us by the stormy European history (Jews in the 30s, Hungarians in 56, Russians in the late 80s).

The Chinese are already in the phase of high-tech copying. Furthermore, telcom network providers, like Huawei and ZTE are already leading the way in innovation. Cisco will have 10 years, Nortel 1 or 2...

IP is important, but the world is fed up with your arrogant, monopolistic multinationals, a little competition makes health. Japan and Korea did the same way, China still needs a decade before truely respecting IPs. But for that time Chinese will be heavyweights in tech.

Peace,

SteveMB93

What are they doing? Making a phone that has more functions than the iPhone. Is it an iPhone clone? I wouldn't say that. The LG Prada came out before the iPhone (going by your logic, the iPhone is a rip off of the LG Prada). I guess the M8 is a knockoff because it is a rectangle like the iPhone? I forgot that Apple owned a patent on the rectangle.

And really? You're comparing the STORES??? Are you f%#$ing kidding me? Who gives a $h1t?

kitkat

What does this even mean... ? Does it mean when Jobs leaves Apple will shut down its company sitting on its $35 billion + cash reserves? WTF do you think you are? A soothsayer?

Now going back to the topic: I own an iphone. I am very happy with it. But I also use windows and really enjoy using my HP netbook. I am looking for a nice phone to compliment it: I think the Meizu M8 looks great and from what I've seen in videos it also has a great GUI. I would love to use the Meizu M8 in Europe and the iphone in the USA.

And as far as copying: There is nothing wrong with competitors acquiring successful styles and technologies. Bill Gates bought DOS. Xerox invented the windowed graphical user interface that Apple copied, which led to Microsoft copying Apple. The first personal computers ran on Motorola chips. Cellular technology was invented by the Israelis. Throughout technological history companies have copied and improved upon good designs. Even the greatest Apple hater here cannot deny the iphone was a good design... And the biggest Apple fan-boy cannot deny that it can be improved upon.

Personally I am very happy that companies like Meizu exist to encourage competition and innovation. And as far as Meizu not being able to sell in patent-law enforcing countries... I do not think this statement is true. You cannot patent a rectangle with a touch screen. So yes, the Meizu will be able to sell abroad.

<=~Rex.llvleizu~=>

Yeah...it's over. All your arguments have been countered.

Chinese copying the west. Theft. - This topic has been brought up so many times. It has happened throughout so much of our world's history. Are you too young to see and understand that? You mention Japan but fail to see that they did the exact same thing. They had a chance to capitalize on technology during the second world war and they took it.

China only take ideas, but doesn't improve on them. - I can't believe you said this.. and in an argument against Meizu too?! Many users here have already owned/used Apple products in the past, and many have opted to give them up for Meizu. The improvements are there, even if they're just small steps, they're there. Most of the things you say are out of arrogance. Take a look at the specs of some of these machines.

Hey. If I invented something and people just copied my idea and added a few improvements, I'd be pretty pissed off too. But eventually, I would realize that this kind of thing is inevitable. It's hard to innovate in a world where many things are already accomplished by people who came before us. Take computer programming for instance - So much of it is already made for us by previous programmers. When we program, most of the time we're just using other peoples code. Do you think Apple programs everything from scratch? Of course not. It's too difficult to escape ''imitatio - aemulatio - creatio''. As humans, we just have to use and build off each others ideas.

Here's something to think about. The Chinese invented gunpowder. Without gunpowder, most conventional ballistic weapons are useless. So...why isn't everyone complaining about the entire world copying/violating Chinese intellectual property?

mbarry

Hey did you guys know? Apple started out copying from pretty much everybody. First with their OS that they put on the Apple I, II, and III's. They got it from Xerox. iPods are original you say? Well the design, maybe, but the Firmware it runs on comes directly from Creative. Apple was praised for their copies because they improved on the original. Similarly, take the M6 for example. Meizu did I guess borrow the shiny plastic, and the shiny metal, but that's it. It's firmware is completely different, none of the components are the same, the screen is in landscape format, it is about 3x smaller and thinner, it uses flash, it has a Touchstrip, not a Scrollwheel, it has a button for On/Off, it's Sound Quality is 5x better, believe me on that point because I own an iPod Video, the M6 is way better on SQ, it uses mini USB, not a proprietary 30-Pin connector, etc. I don't mean this post to piss anybody off, just pointing out the facts.

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JkPwNsTeR

Steve Jobs once said that "Good artists copy, great artists steal". Explains loads of their company. The greatest artist create. We don't get a lot of that anymore, since technology is developed enough that there would be a huge struggle to change standards. We all know about those bs format wars.

The proprietary 30-pin connector actually makes some sense, since it is rather thin and easy to plug the cable into. Standard USB needs to make a new thinner cable standard.

The click wheel is easy to use, but the space it takes up is rather valuable.

All Apple really is, is a company with great media attention and great ads. They convince people that their lives will change forever with their gadgets. They've earned that with a really great advertising team. Now, as for being the best tech company? I don't think so.

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SteveMB93

But the iPod connector is much wider than micro-USB. Plus everybody has micro-USB cables lying around. Not many have iPod connector cables lying around.

kitkat

Actually, that is a Pablo Picasso quote that Steve Job... stole.

Oh the irony.

Michiel

Also nice that the box contains a whole PC, connected to an usb cable.

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does anyone know the official price on this phone? been looking at this phone since it has been announced but wasn't sure if the prices stated in the past are the same prices placed on the final product

crimson05

http://www.meizume.com/minione-m8/74...-meizu-m8.html

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First point: we don't register because we're not Chinese-watch-clone fanboys. I'll start having respect for those companies when they start pumping out original designs. But they'll still be under state ownership which means I'll never envision owning one.

Second point: Yeah, and the MP4 with the iPod look can read more formats than the actual iPod, does that mean it's not a copy? I don't care if it does more stuff than the original, Meizu isn't Apple.

Basically Meizu should try designing something of their own for once rather than basically being copycats of Apple when it comes to design in general. I somewhat admire their venture into making the interface look different but this isn't enough.

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WOW! Seriously! Is there a fine line defining the level of distinction a product must have to be considered not a clone of something else? No.

You say that you'll have respect for the company once it starts releasing original designs. The reality is that in a world like ours, true originality is quite hard to achieve. If you think like that, you might as well throw away your microwave, your car, your television, your computer, and even your bloody toothbrush - because I'm sure the companies that manufactured all those things didn't invent them, thus their designs aren't truly original.

"we don't register because we're not Chinese-watch-clone fanboys."
Why are you here?

taling hallenthur

So the only thing you care about is the brand. I guess the guys at Apple laugh at people like you because you would buy the shittiest product they would give you.
We are not fanboys, we don't worship anything or anyone, we just prefer devices that better suit our needs. You take all of this a bit too seriously, those are just products, that's it. I can't stand the idea of attaching some sort of religious belief or something to a device. Just allow other people using stuff they want to use.

JkPwNsTeR

The mainstream media is at fault a lot here, since Apple really gets too much of the attention. Seriously, if they're low on Apple inventory, who cares? They might as well be reporting a shortage in blahblahblah for demand. Apple's products are extremely overrated.

Someone from Maximum PC said that at the Apple keynote, if Steve Jobs walked onto the stage and took a dump in a bucket, the audience would still clap. Sadly, that's probably true considering all of Apple's products have much better alternatives.

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SteveMB93

Original? You do know that the iPhone isn't the first rectangle touch screen phone, right? Or do you have your head stuck up Steve Job's ass?

chengdude

Really, can we lock the thread or just move on? I'm all for intelligent discussion, but pointless, uninformed trolling obviously triggered by an Engadget post just isn't what this forum is about.