Live shots of Meizu miniOne M8 CeBIT Prototype

It is JUST a non-stable prototype... I think it uses the 6400 processor, not the 6410 which they're planning to use (J Wong said that the 6400 can't produce the desired effects because of the high resolution, and as you can see it's a bit slow ). Maybe this is the reason they couldn't finish the video and the camera part.

Originally Posted by nice2know_u

It is JUST a non-stable prototype... I think it uses the 6400 processor, not the 6410 which they're planning to use (J Wong said that the 6400 can't produce the desired effects because of the high resolution, and as you can see it's a bit slow ). Maybe this is the reason they couldn't finish the video and the camera part.

To be honest: I do not want to have a phone consuming the full cpu-task only for switching options... that would imply:

I) Only 2 h max of battery
II) very bad programming skills

Btw: For normal, you will get development boards simulating the ability for a new CPU/GPU (I think that is what the big mainboards are). So it is not an argument to have the software not optimized (just see e.g. X1 from SE).

Holy shit, I just watched the UI demonstration video...

All i can say is that was PATHETIC! The fact that they couldn't even make an almost working prototype motherboard thing was just pathetic. I don't see why they promised so much for cebit if they couldn't deliver.

so easy to criticize....

does the prototype have actual 480x720 resolution on the screen? how sharp does it look? (youtube video does not do the screen justice i think)

HAHAHAHA 6 more months wow thats about it for the phone they are too many other phone with similar features being made by other companies that will take them out like mike tyson back when he was a good boxer.

Originally Posted by adamL

so easy to criticize....

I'm not so much criticizing them because they've achieved so little. I'm criticizing them because they made promises they couldn't keep, and kept up the lies until the very last minute.

For a while there, I was really interested in the M8, but it's really just starting to look like an out and out iphone rip off.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

HAHAHAHA 6 more months wow thats about it for the phone they are too many other phone with similar features being made by other companies that will take them out like mike tyson back when he was a good boxer.

Meizu will release their Buster Douglas soon tho

Originally Posted by superpope53

I'm not so much criticizing them because they've achieved so little. I'm criticizing them because they made promises they couldn't keep, and kept up the lies until the very last minute.

For a while there, I was really interested in the M8, but it's really just starting to look like an out and out iphone rip off.

Read the latest J Wong replies here, and you'll know why the development board is buggy.

Tut Tut superpope53

i dont know why people are making such a big deal out of it, there only 'crime' is to have speculated on a release date - im glad that they delayed rather than releasing a substandard product, which some companies or known to have done - such as microsoft which most of use use on a daily basis.

And the part u said about it being a iPhone rip off is just ignorance

regards

Russarch, the comments about it being an iPhone ripoff is not ignorance. J Wong has stated that he has copied it off a well known phone on the market. This has been in development before the iPhone was release, then changed to match. I too am disappointed and are more than likely going to go elsewhere now. They keep promising that it will be released every few months and they kepp failing. This is not a working prototype, like promised, its basicly just a digital photoframe. Iv been a big fan but now im ready to jump ship.

Originally Posted by adamL

so easy to criticize....

Yupp. Just as easy as copying the iPhones GUI.

Originally Posted by Russarch

And the part u said about it being a iPhone rip off is just ignorance

EXCUSE ME??? What the heck did you smoke and can I have some too? :eek:

Question: Did you ever hold an iPhone in your hand and did you watch the UI demo? It's all there. The the buttons, the docks, the scrolling behaviour, the sidewards slide, the highlighting... gee, they even copied the calendar 1:1! Watching the so called "UI demo" made me feel emberassed, no kidding.

Jack Wong himself admitted that they've "immitated yet still tried to improve" (im stressing "tried" here since all they managed to come up with is a jumpy UI which looks exactly like the iPhone's, a "prototype" showing static screenshots and a mainboard that lacks 50% of the promised functionality).

So, who's being ignorant now? Open your eyes for crying out loud!

Cant say i am impressed , But im satisfied.
Although the prototype is basically just as good as a plastic dummy really.

But wait!!
The 6410 vs 6400 , Regaring previous comments about a decreased battery life , I belive the 6410 has a die shrink to 90nm (Perhaps 65nm) This will improve battery life ,
The integrated GPU will also take load of the CPU (Or even they may be using a seperate GPU to drive that resoloution) and offer power saving options. Aswell as more fluid transitions and visual effects. Genrally the step to a 6410 will only improve the device bar costs.

Also i must add that there are 6410 units available to manufactures as engineering samples, Therefore most probably meizu can get their hands on one easily , Im suprised they didnt use on at the launch ,
Perhaps it broke an agreement with samsung if they used one in a demo , Who knows?

Anyhow , I think this is a step foward , Although a small one.

And honestly , This lack in software development is taking the piss , It wouldnt take 5 months to design the system as a whole , let alone just install a few apps and a skin onto a pre-built OS(With a fully established SDK ready),sorry but that is ridiculous.

Other than those issues , Great, Pricing looks good , Specs still looking amazing (Screen is most outstanding to me, To think that this devices resoloution basically matches that on an asus EE , somthing that comes in a 7" and 8.9" package vs 3.4", And is capable of delivering some 3d effects at that insane definition)

The absence of DVB-T is dissapointing , But was not to be expected.

Im awaiting more from whoever it was thats going to CEBIT from the meizume site Keep us posted!!!

Why would they add dvbt then removie it so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I think i sounds too good to be true, but you can't base the specs based on that limited prototype and their wall display at CeBit - that list was very basic.

The fact is DVB-T was never really a claimed spec , It was hardly even advertised to be included,
DVB-T tuners generate a ton of heat and consume alot of power, They are not small and require multiple chips aswell an a high quality antenna (size is not so much of an importance) Im pretty sure that it will not be included when the M8 is released for retail. Dont get me wrong i really would hope for the device to include DVB-T , but its a demanding feature and the market for integrated GPS is larger , Not to mention GPS is cheaper , More supported and simpler to integrate.

edit: Apologies for the bad format of my post , Im lazy

so do we know about release date and price yet?

Originally Posted by memphis

Russarch, the comments about it being an iPhone ripoff is not ignorance. J Wong has stated that he has copied it off a well known phone on the market. This has been in development before the iPhone was release, then changed to match. I too am disappointed and are more than likely going to go elsewhere now. They keep promising that it will be released every few months and they kepp failing. This is not a working prototype, like promised, its basicly just a digital photoframe. Iv been a big fan but now im ready to jump ship.

Hm, not really a digital photoframe. If I have interpreted Mr. Wongs posting correctly, there was a problem with the touchscreens they received from their supplier, which they couldn't fix. So at the last moment they switched the manufacturer, problem is the touchscreen requires some modifications to the mainboard, which they could do to the big motherboard they had there, but not to the M8 prototype they brought along, and there was no time to build a new mainboard for the prototype (seems as if they fixed it by bringing an engineer to Germany who did the work).

So that would mean the prototype should be able to do more. Who knows, maybe Meizu can build a new prototype and show it on the last days of CeBIT.

Wow. Great to see FINALLY:Da working prototype!.

Originally Posted by Graymalkin

Watching the so called "UI demo" made me feel emberassed, no kidding.

Embarrassment is what i felt to. It was shocking that there was absolutely NO difference... Now let it be known that i'm saying this and I'm not even an apple fanboy, i own NO apple products.

The m6 was quite obviously inspired by the ipod in terms of design, but it had it's differences which set it apart from all the iclones. The M8 however is just a blatant rip off.

Come on guys, by now at least this should be clear to everyone.

Stop speculating!

When you look at the info that actually came directly from Jack or Meizu (so excluding any non-affiliated bloggers, forumposters, bad Chinese-to-English-Google translations, Apple-fanboys-in-disguise or even semi naive Meizu-afficionados), the only thing you can really blame 'm for is being to naive (marketing wise) and trying to reach for the stars (technology wise) in the beginning (early 2007).

Meizu entered a market that was new to them (hence entered). This paired with the international attention their idea got (and the expectations that Western-folk have/had), was something they did not foresee. Give 'm time and credit. They're adapting. Otherwise they wouldn't have presented themselves at CeBIT. They would have stayed in China.

I'm actually wondering just how big (FTE-wise) Meizu really is. Rumours bout SE XPERIA are already claiming that the release date has been pushed back to early 2009, so even big old SE gets confronted with delays and God knows their pockets go way deeper than Meizu.

Isn't it time to stop getting facts and whishlists/rumours mixed up and then claiming that Meizu broke any promises?

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