mBook and M9mini announced by J. Wong?

Originally Posted by evow04

I do recall the same words..

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Anyway that is just my idea since i do not see the point of a tablet if i could just use a decent smartphone or a decent portable..

I completely agree with you.
A low budget, but good phone would be a good option.
But no tablet. Meizu will loose a lot of invested money, what a waist....

I don't see why meizu have to copy and copy again. Forget this stupid mBook/mpad rip off useless crap. Focus on some better product. How about creating an exciting new media player like what you guys started out doing.

If I were to even consider buying anything like a tablet, I would ONLY consider Microsoft's Courier. Now that is a revolutionary device and could be useful. The iPad is ridiculous and not even worth buying, so I can't see an mBook being useful.




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Originally Posted by LVL

Meizu will loose a lot of invested money, what a waist....

indeed!

Now that is a revolutionary device and could be useful.

you´re right about the courier. but you said a cool word aswell!

I think it is abit time for the Meizu company to create something revolutionary.

What about a 3D touchscreen mobile phone? (damn should have taken a patent before i said it lol) Or what about a phone with 720p tv-out support so you could play games on the phone & tv ? How cool would that be?

Anyway hope meizu would start something new, something unique!

Somehow I really wished not to see Meizu making this move by creating an ipad-like device - now this.
Now it's no doubt that Meizu just walking directly in the footprints of apple, but why still no iPod Touch alternative device here? Really wanted such thing way more.

Meizu really have to get use of all of apple's weakness here if that's going to succeed (internationally), but I just think it gonna be a waste of money. I just see not enough new features that I would buy one of these. Of cause that's a personal question.
I also think it's a very doubtful project in my eyes but I'm just noob here, that's all


The M9mini is a good thing imo. I see people that don't have the money for the M8 or M9 and seeking something more affordable.

Well, with no 1.0 FW for M8 yet and the M9 yet on the boards, I bet we going to wait a loooong time before see these things in reality. Or the Meizu company simply just went bigger?...

I'm really getting the feeling that Meizu is copying Apple as well. When it all started with the M6, it looked nothing like an iPod, save for the shiny plastic, and metal. It's other features blew the iPod out of the water, except maybe storage capacity. Now with the release of the M8 right after the iPhone, and the mBook, after the iPad?!? All I hope is that they at least offer extraordinary features on the thing.

Oh yet another promise,its high time these guys start making news of up coming products and first release the M9,im waiting to buy one.

meizu please focus on creating a nice M9. Forget about creating a mbook or M9mini. It's too much work to do for such a little firm like you. Focus on the M9, make it the nicest, high technic, affordable phone out there and many people will be fine by that. After releasing the M9 with a 99,9% working soft and hardware you can work on other things. Don't make the same mistake like you did with the M8 again. First ending one thing, before starting an other. And keep to your roots. A tablet is something different as a phone or MP3 player. And who need a M9mini. I think it will have lower specs than the M9, so why buy it?

First ending one thing, before starting an other.

totally agree!

Originally Posted by iceman#1

And who need a M9mini. I think it will have lower specs than the M9, so why buy it?

Allthough i understand your idea you are having a wrong conclusion atm.
It is very interesting for meizu to create a m9mini since there are a lot of people in China mainland with a very tight budget. So they can´t afford a high end & expensive phone (that´s why you see a lot of clones there).

So basicly if they would launch a real budget phone with decent features & focused on chinese users, they would have a new market segment that can create a huge revenue...

Yeah why start putting your resources into new products when you haven't even managed to finish the only other product you have on the market? Meizu's approach to product R&D and marketing is certainly unique to say the least...

Meizu's China only outlook has really made me lose interest in their products to be honest. Currently the only product they sell is an underpowered phone using an old ARM11 chip with buggy firwmare. Now they want to introduce an even more underpowered phone and a tablet. Not to mention the fact that tablets running every OS (android/win ce/linux/xp & win 7 etc etc) under the sun are being pumped out at a ridiculous rate into a market already over saturated with MIDS/tablets.

They have abandoned making mp3/mp4 players completely despite the fact that the only really solid product they have ever made was an mp3 player. I'm not sure what Meizu really has to offer me anymore to be honest. The M9? Still just talk...and as a UK resident I have the option of buying almost every high powered android device available on the market so i'm not sure why I would chose to buy an m9 even if it came out and wasn't that buggy (which frankly is unlikely anyway)...

Since the time when the M8 was first on the drawing board the whole mobile device market has moved on. New chips, new start ups, new operating systems. Meizu just seem to have been left behind. Even Chinese companies like Ramos are bringing 720p android tablets to market and meizu is still fannying about trying to fix bugs on what is essentially a dated product.

Sorry but i can't help feeling like there are so many other companies and products showing much more promise at the moment...

I think this is a splendid Idea. I know a lot of people here like to complain about Meizu never fixing bugs, never releasing a final firmware and so on,
But i have to say that using the later official Old UI firmwares and the official New UI this phone is more stable than most i have owned or tried. For example my most used phone besides for the M8 is my Xperia X1 - this has bugs which have been existent since it first came out with WinMo 6.1, and still are not fixed with 6.5.

And seriously, they way people complain about the m8 why would they not release more products? Here are the reason why several phone models and a tablet are good ideas:

1. They are not putting all their eggs in one basket, more products = Less impact if one fails badly.

2. The M8 has been out for a while, of course there should be an update!
Id say the m8 is pretty good performance-wise compared to other phones in the same price-class, but if they didnt release an updated hardware then they would fall way behing.

3. A tablet lets them get in on a strong emerging market. Yes there are many tablets releasing, but many are VERY basic.

4. Different phone models increases interest, maybe some people dont want a high-spec m9 but would like a mid-spec?

It is a wise choice to make i think. And if some are bitter about the meizu M8 not being all they wanted then nobody is forcing you to buy a M9 or a tablet, buy an iphone and an ipad instead and enjoy perfect out-of-the-box functionability and limited user-freedom

I would agree Shiprat, but if meizu would have the potential to build more devices. If they would be as big as HTC. If they want to build three devices at a time, you have to have a few more people who create and support those devices.
Me working in a wind turbine firm which is building rotorblades. We can't create three new rotorblade types with the same quantity of people and in the time we normally create one new type. If we would create three types, all three would be very buggy and fragile and not up to date. You have to leave something behind if you want to do this. one thing could be quality of the hardware, one could be software or support issue.
I say, meizu gather more great engineers and builders around you and begin to create maybe two devices. A phone which is up to date WHEN IT's OUT, NOT WHEN IT IS ANNOUNCED. And the second device could be a MP4 player or a nice pocket phone.
Let me say the M9 will be released at the end of 2010/beginning 2011 with the specs today announced. The device will be outdated and just the meizu fans will buy it, only to have the newest meizu.
If they want to release the M9 with the current soecs, it has to be now, otherwise it's to late. Than they can compete with HTC and all the other phones. Or they release it in the end of 2010 with the following specs:

3,7" 800x420 AMOLED display
1,2 GHZ CPU
600MB RAM
newest Android
working with future coming networks like 4G
HDMI video capture and hdmi out (like the HTC EVO)
stereo speakers in HQ
memory card
NVIDIA chip
...

Man these are 8 months till december 2010, 8 months are so damn long in this kind of business. They will miss the train with that specs. And especially with creating more items like a tabletPC.

Just my two cents!

You´re right iceman#1.
The longer they wait the more specs it need but it wont happen as far as i know meizu.

3. A tablet lets them get in on a strong emerging market. Yes there are many tablets releasing, but many are VERY basic.

Yes and no? there are different classes of tablets that will dominate the landscape :
*cheap ass bad working ones (mostly android based)
*Apple Ipad´s (will have much users)
*Ms Win os based devices like the "Slate" (will have much users)

So i can´t imagine that Meizu could compete with the last 2 classes since Mymobile isn´t focussed well enough on internet applications or has enough apps/good SDK that will make it more usable like "slate" will have. So it would compete with android based tablets but this class has enough international users and support to be the upper class in cheap tablets.

maybe some people dont want a high-spec m9 but would like a mid-spec?

true but they need to keep in mind that M9 should have higher specs (for example it should contain onboard flash, a cheaper one not..) but they all will need the same os (mymobile) to be interesting.

buy an iphone and an ipad instead and enjoy perfect out-of-the-box functionability and limited user-freedom

Well M8 beats the Iphone on size/OS look&feels but the Iphone beats the M8 when it comes to the touchscreen , features & online browsing.
So I will be interested how the M9 will be compared to a 3GS or newer/upcoming Iphone.

Originally Posted by iceman#1

If they want to release the M9 with the current soecs, it has to be now, otherwise it's to late. Than they can compete with HTC and all the other phones. Or they release it in the end of 2010 with the following specs:

3,7" 800x420 AMOLED display
1,2 GHZ CPU
600MB RAM
newest Android
working with future coming networks like 4G
HDMI video capture and hdmi out (like the HTC EVO)
stereo speakers in HQ
memory card
NVIDIA chip
...

You are right of course, the m9 probably wont measure up spec-wise when pitted against stuff like HTC and iPhone 3GS or possibly this summers release of iphone. But i strongly doubt it would ever reach those specs at the current priceclass. Double the price of the meizu and maybe you could get a 1.2~ Cpu, 512-> Ram, Brand new android alla worked up for meizu and all the bells and whistles. but when you reach that prize its no longer the same thing.

I bought my meizu for about 250 $, which was not a big deal seeing as the other phone i use (X1) cost me about 860 $ when it was new. I can be assured my Xperia ALWAYS works with all features even directly after fresh reflash, but it comes at a price. What i mean is the reason i was willing to go for a not-to-known chinese iphone clone was because it had high-end (not über-end though) and didnt leave me starving for a month

Originally Posted by evow04

You´re right iceman#1.
So i can´t imagine that Meizu could compete with the last 2 classes since Mymobile isn´t focussed well enough on internet applications or has enough apps/good SDK that will make it more usable like "slate" will have. So it would compete with android based tablets but this class has enough international users and support to be the upper class in cheap tablets.

This is true right now, when they are working with the m8; what happens next cannot be known be mere mortals 'tis moot for the time beeing...

Originally Posted by evow04

Well M8 beats the Iphone on size/OS look&feels but the Iphone beats the M8 when it comes to the touchscreen , features & online browsing.
So I will be interested how the M9 will be compared to a 3GS or newer/upcoming Iphone.

I agree. Im hoping the m9 will regain some ground that apple has covered with its 3GS, and not to mention how the HD2 and htc androids have obliterated the market. However if the M9 dont actually beat those devices i wont mind, because the "bangforbuck" ratio will still be way above the average on western markets..

Again, all we can really do at this point is speculate. I, however believe in meizu capability to deliver. Guess i got a thing for the underdog when it comes to my toys. I think the m9 is the most interesting upcoming, perhaps sharing the throne with the OpenPandora.

Also, bugs aside, my M8 still rocks! so..

I have viliv X7..it's much better than ipad. check it at ????(myviliv.com)

Here is some more stuff on the mBook:

J. Wong said when the next mbook listed? In the latest configuration. (Map)

1, Size: 210 * 140 * 14 (about half of A4 paper).
2, Screen size: 8.4 inch screen, 4:3 ratio, 1024 * 768, capacitive touch screen.
3, built-in GPS navigation system.
4, built-in 3G, Wlan, anytime, anywhere access.
5, CPU: 1.5G, graphics.
6, high-quality music playback.
7, HDMI output, supports 1920 * 1080P.
8, long use time 12 hours.

SOURCE

@ Shiprat
priceclass is subjective. meizu is a little firm with a low quantity of devices. Consequence is that meizu has to pay higher prices for components.
Meizu uses components for their new developments which are up to date at time of development, so these components are cheaper. cheaper than components for example apple uses. Big firm like apple always uses the future components for they upcoming devices. that is more expensive. I don't know if this is understandable. samsung is developing new CPUs for example. apple uses this new developments. meizu is using "old' components, which are already finished in development.
example:
meizu for the M9: 1GHZ CPU
apple for the iphone 4G: >1GHZ CPU
both phones will come out maybe at the same time. No matter what, you have to be up to date when releasing a device

next thing that affect the price of devices is the brand/name of the firm
meizu is a small firm so they can not be expensive, they have not such a big reputation as apple. you always have to pay more money because apple is written on the device and it is designed by apple engineers.
That is the main fact why I don't buy apple stuff

shortly said:
meizu can produce cheaper because using "old" components and they don't have a big reputation, so people don't have to pay for a name. little firm -> low cost for employees, low hire charges for rooms, low cost on operation cost.... but with these low quantity of sold devices it has to be like this. you can't be a big firm without selling your stuff.

ask yourself:
what would you buy. two phones let me say one of HTC and one of Meizu. same looking, same specs, same price which one would you buy? the one of the big firm like HTC which might be well made (because of their know how) or the one of the little firm which might me not well made (because the firm is new in this kind of business)?
consequence: meizu has to be cheaper that people buy their stuff!

@Loonix
thanks for the specs
here you clearly can see what I mean. specs which are common today for a device which is coming in months or a year! waste of money

So, have how do we feel about this thread now J Wong officially announced the m9 will run android? Changes things eh?

hope your company have a satelite office here in the Philippines. it makes buyer easy to buy because they refrain from ordering thru using of credit card. so many chinese product here now. i assure you mr. wong that your gadget be one to lined up to other chinese product here. as i can see apple iphone is to expensive here and if your product is send here, filipino are after the price of gadget which is more competative. thank you and more power to your company. i'm willing to help promote this gadget if posible for you to have me one unit for promotion here in the Philippines.God bless.

No Mbook and no M9 yet.. right? hehehehe Wong promises a lot though.

Originally Posted by RazorKiss

No Mbook and no M9 yet.. right? hehehehe Wong promises a lot though.

mm...

Hope he keeps his promise to release MEIZU M9 before the next year!