Jack Wong: Meizu M9 to come without headphones, storage

just wondering, what is the GENERAL price of a 8 or 16GB micro sd card? also, the meizu m8 earphones were very good for me. the fact that there is no internal memory brings the meizu phone series into the next stage of the DIY phone!

Average quality 8GB TF (MicroSD) cards are about $20 or so in China; 16GB cards are over $50. Flash memory in general is high right now, and with the iPad and next-gen iPhone around the corner that's probably not going to change in the foreseeable future.

No doubt Meizu has a target price and target demographic in mind and in order to keep the price fair -and profit margin to their liking- I don't think Jack Wong has much choice but to go this route.

Good idea´s for M9.
I don´t mind that it doesn´t come with internal flash since I don´t really use it, but then again it limits the possibillity of installing apps by default so maybe it could be that they will add a bigger nand for the os.

About MicroSD, it isn´t that expensive; 2GB +- 6 €, 8GB +- 15€, 16GB +-35€ & those aren´t the cheapest prices so if you have a look you can make some nice deals..

I do hope that if they will cut on free accesoires the default options will have a high value. I mean then it really needs to have GPS, 3G,TV out,... otherwise i just could buy an other phone in the same price range with more options.

Anyway:
Jack if you are reading this; where can i sign up for an alpha/beta model? Oh.., in case you wonder; I don´t mind the no international support

^ This time, when we say no international support, it will mean so big time. Only M9w (world) will support GSM/3G. The other versions will support proprietary Chinese network technologies. I'm guessing the M9w won't be released first.

Sounds obvious ofcourse, but then again still would like to test 1 :D

btw I also think that releasing with out the accesoires has an advantage for Meizu.. It will give them the option to launch special editions etc.

I do not care for internal memory and micro phone.
But connectivity,opertating system,apps performance,RAM,3D,Games,Video formats support,Sound quality is strontly wanted

Two days ago the server may be a problem so that I can not login, today's good
I saw the home painted with headphones but was fork out, I think MEIZU be will be equipped with headphones, so far indicated that most users can not get rid of headphones
Two days MEIZU leaked a 9619 version of the firmware, changed little, download address:
??? - ??M8?????? - M8 ?UI??_0.9.6.19_100226
M8 has a PSP game is part of the PSP emulator can run games, such as FF9 (final fantasy9) and the like, and I do not know whether you know, I think this is a good thing ~ ~ ~
Finally referring to the next, according to sources said, M9 listing date will probably be later in July
My English is poor, you forgive me. . .

Originally Posted by Err0r

^ This time, when we say no international support, it will mean so big time. Only M9w (world) will support GSM/3G. The other versions will support proprietary Chinese network technologies. I'm guessing the M9w won't be released first.

Actually JW confirmed a few days ago that WCDMA version should be the first one released, because they are having some kind of troubles with TD-SCDMA. Great news for us!

errr why would anyone possibly complain about removable storage? I agree a combination of internal and removable storage is optimal but at the end of the day I would much prefer having removable storage instead of just limited internal memory and extra cost. Not everyone needs large amounts of flash on board anyway.

At the moment on the M8 you are limited to 8gb and 16gb with no expansion possible. At least with removable storage you could carry a spare card if needed plus 32gb cards will be available soon. Even despite high flash prices at the minute you can still find 16gb cards cheap. This is a nice move by meizu, personally I can't see any possible reason to complain about this.

I would much rather they put resources into making the hardware/software itself run well and trying to keep the sale price down than worrying about headphones or memory size. They are giving people the option to chose their own card size rather than limiting the memory.

The meizu pt750 headphones or whatever they are called that come bundled with the m8 cost next to nothing to buy separate anyway. What is the problem then?

If you have enough money to spend on an m9 you can afford an extra $10/$15 to buy these phones if you need them.

Most people own a few pairs of headphones anyway, and anyone buying the M9 will almost certainly already have headphones they use with either the M8 or some other device they own. If you are a serious music listener who cares about sound quality you would also not be using the stock meizu headphones anyway.

Both good moves by Wong IMO. Good news on the WCDMA M9 too, now all we need is some decent core apps! for youtube/facebook/twtter etc...

Sorry if this is a stupid question... What is WCDMA? Is that the 3G for europe or... ?

Originally Posted by nice2know_u

Actually JW confirmed a few days ago that WCDMA version should be the first one released, because they are having some kind of troubles with TD-SCDMA. Great news for us!

Sweden has no CDMA networks, so does that mean that it can't be used here?

Originally Posted by sere83

Both good moves by Wong IMO. Good news on the WCDMA M9 too, now all we need is some decent core apps! for youtube/facebook/twtter etc...

Too bad those core apps you mentioned will never be released by Meizu since all three of those services are b-locked in Chi-na.

yeah, I know it's not even a possibility in the future. Not to mention the fact external devs cannot even gain acces to all the API's necessary to make an application with the full functionality of facebook (including chat/messaging etc). Only official apps support all the functions of the website.

To be honest unless the M9 gets flash 10.1 unfortunately I won't be able to take it seriously as my main phone.

I suppose you can always use mobile or desktop versions of sites like facebook and maybe flash will be implemented but it will still be a lot harder to navigate and be less convenient than having an easy to use app optimized for touch input like on andorid/pre/iphone/win7 etc.

To be honest, it seems kind of odd to me that meizu are going to all the effort of making a world (W) version, when the M9 will not be avilable ofically outside of china.

i want m9 to be compatible to android or win7 apps. if not m9 is dead for me

Originally Posted by Err0r

Sweden has no CDMA networks, so does that mean that it can't be used here?

No, CDMA and WCDMA are different networks. Google says: WCDMA is a form of a GSM 3G network (UMTS, HSPDA, WCDMA etc). It's the most commonly used 3G network worldwide including Europe.

What's about M8 3G? I've started to save money for M8 3G then they said M9 is coming officially almost in the same time as the M8 3G. The only reason I don't buy an iPhone is because every lame has one.

Anyway, I don't care about the earphones.
I'm not worried about the memory. I trust in meizu they gonna make a working phone. But I hope that the OS will be on the phone's memory and the memory card will be used only as a storage. The best way would be xxgb internal memory for applications and a memory slot for media files For example(with no internal memory) if i want to edit an image with M9 Paint from an other memory card, but I have the app on the current card...
I belive that meizu will solve these problems somehow...

i want m9 to be compatible to android or win7 apps. if not m9 is dead for me

This my friend shows that you absolutely have no clue about how a phone or sth. worx.
Typical iphone coustumer :D

The m9 will have eneugh intern memory to hold a OS and a little more.
The rest will be sd card. look at the phone market right now, the most phones going this way

OK, W-CDMA.
Does W-CDMA support UTMS?
And how about HSDPA?
Will some M9 support UTMS/HSDPA?
Since only these networks are supported in the Netherlands, and the only networks that are fast.

If I understand correctly WCDMA covers UMTS and HSDPA too. Look them up on wikipedia, you can find plenty of info there.

in my view of it ,no headphone may be a wonderful idea .
however,no internal storage will effect the some nomal operation which need storage.
you should be aware that storage in a smartphone is needed all the time,unlike headphone

Originally Posted by LVL

OK, W-CDMA.
Does W-CDMA support UTMS?
And how about HSDPA?
Will some M9 support UTMS/HSDPA?
Since only these networks are supported in the Netherlands, and the only networks that are fast.

LVL,
for us Europeans we should take the WCDMA since it supports the most of our networks (and it should be compatible with GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA).

For asian and some parts of the USA (like verizon i thought) there is a need of CDMA or it won´t work.

edit, just thinking about it if i am correct CDMA also supports GSM what means that calling wouldn´t be a problem but data is. I would need to look it up at work to make sure cause these days there are too many standards out there.

edit 2, JW: while you are busy with it; why not removing the sound buttons? It will cut the costs aswell and would make the design more sleek ;-)