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The latest series of posts by Meizu CEO Jack Wong reveals Meizu's plans to bundle apart from a QQ client, also a customized version of Live Messenger free of charge with Meizu M8 mobile phone. The client will connect to the Messenger network through Wi-Fi.
He also tells fans not to worry about other useful software as the M8 miniOne platform will be open.
I think now is not the time to reveal new plans for new functions but to tell a release date...
I guess it will not be too hard to find a messenger client for an open platform (windows ce) -> unneeded feature to have a reason to release the phone later?
But the truth is, is that it ISN'T done. So I don't know what you are expecting them to say.
Euhm, just nothing? Just shut up until you actually have something solid to share news about? That's what most companies usually do. "News" that they provided us back in september '07 turned out to be flat-out wrong as time passed.
Wong is trying to push the limits of brainwashing people by keeping them patient and positive about the still-not-done-m8.
Euhm, just nothing? Just shut up until you actually have something solid to share news about? That's what most companies usually do. "News" that they provided us back in september '07 turned out to be flat-out wrong as time passed.
Wong is trying to push the limits of brainwashing people by keeping them patient and positive about the still-not-done-m8.
You're the perfect example of a bandwagon fan. You wanted them to announce that the Meizu is done, when you know it ISN'T. Shut up until you have something POSITIVE to say.
You're the perfect example of a bandwagon fan. You wanted them to announce that the Meizu is done, when you know it ISN'T. Shut up until you have something POSITIVE to say.
Are you telling me that I can't express my own opinion?
Did you actually read what I wrote? They should shut up until the job's done, never said that they should say it now.
I notice you never really counter any argument I make to you, which make me question the use of responding to you. You just pull a random line out of the hat to belittle everyone that is critical of Meizu.
would you please stop telling each other to shut up. This is a discussion forum and we would like to hear the opinions, not smother them.
calm down & relax
Hehe.. DusL, I'm actually finding it quite funny how you and SteveMB93 keep discussing/disagreeing with each other all the time.. :P
Originally Posted by DusL
Euhm, just nothing? Just shut up until you actually have something solid to share news about? That's what most companies usually do. "News" that they provided us back in september '07 turned out to be flat-out wrong as time passed.
Wong is trying to push the limits of brainwashing people by keeping them patient and positive about the still-not-done-m8.
Humm, not that I'm "taking sides".. but I have to disagree with this post.. In my point of view, the constant feed of "in development" information is what interested me the most about the M8. Even if I end up not buying it, it's been really interesting to see it taking shape from the initial concept phase.
Of course that the M8 delays are annoying for potential buyers (and bad for Meizu itself), but I don't think that Meizu was wrong in announcing it so soon. To announce it so soon was actually J. Wong's marketing strategy from the start, and it has worked very well since the M8 is now world famous.
By the way, here's a funny thought about this: maybe we're seeing the dawn of a new type of marketing model, the "tech development reality show" marketing model.
In my opinion, the announcement of a product that doesn't follow an immediate release on the market is something already seen from BIG brands, to gain some "mind space" about their capacity of making something "very innovative". It doesn't matter when you ship it: it matters when you announce it because users - and press - will benchmark the other products against the announced specs and product. When it is finally released it will still be compared with the products at the time of the announcement, not the current ones just because it has already gone through the "comparison process".
People also dreams easily with these "early announcements" and feed on every news about their dream development. It is easy to describe a "dream device" if you don't have to ship it immediately. But again, when it finally comes out it will be less "dream" and more leveled with the others; however the ones that fell in love won't notice it too much.
Phone industry is full of "concept phones" and many times some "concept phone" is introduced as "soon to be available"!
It is plain marketing strategy.
I do remember when Nokia announced (with pictures and specs) some sort of Internet connected device, similar to a Communicator without keyboard. After almost one year from the announcement (and pictures and so on), they just said "Whops! Sorry! No product.. we have something else that will replace it, after a while". By the way, they finally made something like that... and because it was a "later model", they had a significant advantage for the image as innovators.
Someone remembers the Motorola thingie with the PocketPC OS and the keyboard in the clamshell format? Announced, got resonance for Motorola as the "innovators" and then it was dumped (16 moths later) as it never worked as it was supposed to do.
Again, my opinion gathered in years of activity in this industry and I already know that many will disagree.
However, Meizu is behaving quite well to be a fully chinese company: they are understanding well the dynamics of the market and of the industry, avoiding the classical errors that too many times make chinese companies to ship things incomplete and not good enough to be really successful products.
Too often we see something chinese that looks great on paper and then - when it arrives - we find out that it was just rushed to the market skipping the last couplte of months of cleaning and polishing.
Too many times we get good hardware with unfinished software... interfaces deigned by engineers and not made for the "average dumb user"...
As a last comment, I think that it is correct and "common practice" to start early in the "mind space" fight on the market. Big companies do it, why Meizu shouldn't? By the time the product is available, a LOT of people will know about it and the sales will - hopefully - skyrocket as they should deserve. Without this "early seeding", it would take too much time to get known and sold in reasonable quantities.
P.S.: for people that doesn't know, in advertisement terms "mind space" is the fame/knowlege/heard of about a specific brand or product in the market. Example: Think about a dark soft drink and give me the first name you recall... Ok, CocaCola has gained a big "mind space"
You're the perfect example of a bandwagon fan. You wanted them to announce that the Meizu is done, when you know it ISN'T. Shut up until you have something POSITIVE to say.
Feeling the pressure already, eh?
Originally Posted by Traps
In my point of view, the constant feed of "in development" information is what interested me the most about the M8. Even if I end up not buying it, it's been really interesting to see it taking shape from the initial concept phase.
Well, at some point, constant "in development" information without hard evidence tends to get a tad implausible.
I for one don't believe a word Wong is saying. As I stated in another thread: "Seeing is believing". Meizu has been misinforming people for quite some time now, and as long I don't see anything, it's still nothing but hot air and vaporware to me.
Originally Posted by SimonePMP
It is plain marketing strategy.
This isn't any strategy. This is setting people back again and again, which eventually pisses them off and makes them buy some other product. At least that's what Meizu did to me. I wanted the M8 too but wouldn't let myself be arsed to wait for another announced "release date" pass by without anything happening...
__________________ "iPhone? Well, due to Meizu prolonging the release of M8 further and further and cutting it's specs more and more, I just found myself buying that over-hyped, over-prized piece of yesterday's technology. In fact, it's pretty cool - even with the half-eaten fruit on it..."
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