Meizu M8 GUI Finalized

Originally Posted by h3ll0

Will The M8 have Java Support????

I'm getting a deja vu feeling seeing your question (again).

How the hell are we supposed to know? Okay, it's running CE6; check google or wikipedia and check if the build-in browser supports it.
Meizu may have stripped the entire OS to their liking so it's still not sure.

Originally Posted by DusL

I'm getting a deja vu feeling seeing your question (again).

How the hell are we supposed to know? Okay, it's running CE6; check google or wikipedia and check if the build-in browser supports it.
Meizu may have stripped the entire OS to their liking so it's still not sure.

Thanks for noticing, it's times like these the -reputation was designed for.

talking of wikipedia, they have their own M8 page which has scant information... except they list a release date, lol :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M8_miniOne

@nasman - Wikipedia isn't "they". The M8 page was made by members here, including myself.

Originally Posted by stereo

Oh, an iPhone (again).

Bunch of pirates - I hope Apple make you all walk the plank!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bunch of pirates - I hope Apple make you all walk the plank!

Pirates? Care to elaborate? Care to register?

....and as a FYI I actually went out and got an iPhone for the time being lets see how long I keep it, I do like it so far though, espeically since I unlocked it and never had to deal with AT&T and their $60/mo data plan and 2yr contract.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bunch of pirates - I hope Apple make you all walk the plank!

Who is copying who (the endless question on this subject )

... resolution of 720x480, sound familiar? Isn't that the Meizu you say, think again

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...he_newton.html

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bunch of pirates - I hope Apple make you all walk the plank!

Once again... Beloved o' mighty Apple haven't invented anything!!!... except iPod... the shitty iPhone is nothing but Apple stealing ideas and proved technologies from PDA and cell phone manufacturers and adding it to its successful iPod... to create a device that can't be used in all the areas they intend to... because correspond a very different activities of a normal human.

Are users going to watch a video while it's held a business phone talk? ... USA citizens probably will

Originally Posted by DaremoS

Once again... Beloved o' mighty Apple haven't invented anything!!!

They DID in fact invent the PDA which rumor has it they are trying to reinvent see link in my above post.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

the shitty iPhone is nothing but Apple stealing ideas and proved technologies from PDA and cell phone manufacturers and adding it to its successful iPod

Let's be fair here now, and while yes a lot of features even layout and design is borrowed or at least inspired from such companies as Nokia and Dell (read HTC) (for more on this see my posts here 08\08\07 M8 Update ) , now I would also be curious to hear your first hand experience with the iPhone since you are refering to it with such interesting choice of words, or is this just based on emotions from having been drooling over pictures online?

Originally Posted by DaremoS

... to create a device that can't be used in all the areas they intend to... because correspond a very different activities of a normal human.

Can you please repeat this in English?

Originally Posted by DaremoS

Are users going to watch a video while it's held a business phone talk? ... USA citizens probably will

Not sure what you are "held" here but, again perhaps you or someone could repeat this in English?

Now how does ones citizenship tie into anything? What about legal residents? What about illegal residents, do they use their gadgets differently or? :P

Originally Posted by ecsk2

They DID in fact invent the PDA which rumor has it they are trying to reinvent see link in my above post.

Can you please repeat this in English?

Sure I can... that means that the functions that were put together in an iPhone are used in different moments of the activities of a person. I think that the example I wrote is clear: to watch movies as part of activities of a business man. Is not a bad idea to watch a movie while waits for the next meeting :D

Now how does ones citizenship tie into anything? What about legal residents? What about illegal residents, do they use their gadgets differently or? :P

You said in English their gadgets. We are talking here of ONE gadget that have all in one... a very expensive one... if this powerful iPhone fails all its functions will be lost... being necessary to have a cell phone, a calculator, an MP4 as backup.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

Sure I can... that means that the functions that were put together in an iPhone are used in different moments of the activities of a person. I think that the example I wrote is clear: to watch movies as part of activities of a business man. Is not a bad idea to watch a movie while waits for the next meeting :D

I'm sorry but what are you trying to state with ''are used in different moments of the activities of a person.'' Perhaps you can put it in your own native language and we might have someone on here who can help with translating it?

"to watch movies as part of activities of a business man. Is not a bad idea to watch a movie while waits for the next meeting" Is this a question, statement? What? If you haven't noticed this before you might get enlightened by the fact that the iPhone is in no way or fashion geared towards the business user, have you seen the TV ads, videos, or have you even touched one?

Originally Posted by DaremoS

You said in English their gadgets. We are talking here of ONE gadget that have all in one...

This was in a reply to your statement "USA citizens" which is plural, so if you have one device per person but multiple people in the English language you would refer to these as gadgets, yes. Anything else you need clearified?

Now that we have covered the grammar can you elaborate as to how the citizenship of anyone has anything to do with anything and what happens to oddballs like myself that posess more than one citizenship and multiple residencies!?

Originally Posted by DaremoS

a very expensive one... if this powerful iPhone fails all its functions will be lost... being necessary to have a cell phone, a calculator, an MP4 as backup.

Since this is the Meizu forum and we are talking about the M8 in what way is the iPhone "very expensive" at $399 USD? What types of smartphones have you owned (lately if at all) when you consider this "very expensive"? Can you please give some comparisions as to what you are comparing to?

Come on ecsk2 are you from USA aren't you?...

You know what I mean... there are moments for entertainment... there are moment for business... there are moments for research / investigation whatever... all this moments are different moments... do you agree in that?
iPhone tries to cover all those moments... as simple as that.

USA citizens was wrong... I should have said USA people devoured by merchandising / marketing... that goes beyond nations or genre or legal considerations.

We are in a forum of MP3/MP4 players... products than normally goes up to US$ 150 more or less... this silly race started by Apple and followed by Meizu and somehow by Teclast, trying to put in the market products that cost twice that price... are called "expensive"... if we look to the initial price of US$ 600 when the race began we are talking of "very expensive" products.

I took what you said about the target of the merchandising and you said that is not for business men... then if not business men... who can pay US$ 400 or more for a MP3/MP4 Player?

To compare this "new wave of MP3/MP4 players" with a smartphone or PDA which are serious products for business purposes, is simply out of topic. No smartphone or PDA manufacturer will produce a expensive product not enough tested and proved... without the bugs that our loved players are showing. Relationship is inverse... they produce a fully tested product and then add some gift like it is a camera or a mp3 player.

Sorry if I don't follow the disqualifications concerning the use of language... but we are here multinational people that express themselves as they want and can.

I really hope one of the models will support true dual sim, I would definitely buy one then .

But I fear this won't be the case, as this severely impacts design, power consumption etc... Basically, you would wind up with a bigger device (larger battery and so). Even then, that would not really bother me personally, but I doubt Meizu is even considering it.

I'm curious to check out the final specs of the M8, but I do know this : if the device can't distinguish itself from the real iphone, why buy a copy ? There would have to be a substantial price difference as well as proof of quality and support if you ask me.

C U,

Cooled

The m8 does distinguish itself from the iphone actually :P

The main thing that i like is the overkill 720x480 screen, that's the resolution of the average dvd-movie you buy in the store!
This single point makes all other uses that can the done with a pda+phone combo a lot better.

(i just hope the screen will be scratchresistant as I think that will be the main catch for m8. it can't have a screenprotector like m6 because this one's touchscreen.)
Apple's put one hell of a resistant screen btw in the iphone from what I have seen

Of course it is different... but will people find that a good thing to prefer it over iphone ?

And I would really like that dual sim goodie ! No feedback from Meizu themselves on that one ?

Originally Posted by cooledspirit

And I would really like that dual sim goodie ! No feedback from Meizu themselves on that one ?

Based on the only image I have seen showing sim card placement I would say it will only be a single.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

Come on ecsk2 are you from USA aren't you?...you don't show any flag

Please define "from", because in my case the following are all different countries (not to mention continents):

1. Born in?
2. Grown up in?
3. Lived the longest in?
4. Citizen of?
5. Native language speaker of?
6. Permanent resident holder of?

So yes for obvious reasons I'm not one to "show any flag".

Originally Posted by DaremoS

You know what I mean... there are moments for entertainment... there are moment for business... there are moments for research / investigation whatever... all this moments are different moments... do you agree in that?
iPhone tries to cover all those moments... as simple as that.

First of all NO I don't know what you mean as many of your statements don't make any sence gramatically, it is very easy in todays electronic world to use spell and grammar checking features, if your not understood then its very hard to comment.

Secondly, it appears you've not seen a single ad for the iPhone nor have done the "research / investigation" on this product prior to making these assumptious statements that it would be intended for business use aswell. The very first thing a business user of a pocketable device will want and need is corporate email support, this is someting the iPhone does NOT support, not to mention the lack of a real qwerty keyboard with tactile feel even IF it had corporate email support. Thats just one of the very obvious features, there are a number of others but as it appears you have no interest in the product anyhow I won't waste any more time on going into them.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

USA citizens was wrong... I should have said USA people devoured by merchandising / marketing... that goes beyond nations or genre or legal considerations.

Yes the agenda of the coporate world affects every single one of us living on this earth regardless who and where we are. How many years have you personally lived in the USA if I may ask? Yes there are major differences in mny places on the earth with both pros and cons in all of them, but witout first hand experiences your statements are merly assumptious as already pointed out.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

We are in a forum of MP3/MP4 players... products than normally goes up to US$ 150 more or less... this silly race started by Apple and followed by Meizu and somehow by Teclast, trying to put in the market products that cost twice that price... are called "expensive"... if we look to the initial price of US$ 600 when the race began we are talking of "very expensive" products.

This thread is actually about the M8, not MP3 players as such...so if you have no plam to spend $399 (current iPhone price) are you going to seriously consider the meizu at the same price (or more, since all price indicators for now indicate more than that), if not why waste your time on this in the first place, why not spend it on somting that might help to change your preception of what is overly expensive.

One can not label a product as expensive or not from an international standpoint based on local circumstances, now once again I ask you to point out what devices your comparing the iPhone to, sine its very obviously not just an MP3 player, hardly anyone in their right mind would go out and buy an MP3 player brand new today that only holds 8GB unless it has a very nice tiny size or and price, so are you comparing it to what Nokia? HTC (which BTW also makes the Palm Treos)? Or even name the OS, Symbian? WM?

The fact of the matter is ANY smartphone out there will cost you the same, now if you want to talk about smartphones tha are geared for business use look at the Nokia E90 which sis DOUBLE (..and then some) the price of the iPhone, and the whole Nokia communicator family (of which Ive owned all of them since the 91xx era).

BTW this very reply is being typed on one of these www.oqo.com fits in my pocket and runs WinXP Pro (and Vista if I wanted to), now those are indeed tareted for business use, and compare the price level to the iPhone (even the old $599 price!)

Originally Posted by DaremoS

I took what you said about the target of the merchandising and you said that is not for business men... then if not business men... who can pay US$ 400 or more for a MP3/MP4 Player?

So I should assum the Playstation 3 is designed for business men ONLY? (..and no I'm not a gamer )

Originally Posted by DaremoS

To compare this "new wave of MP3/MP4 players" with a smartphone or PDA which are serious products for business purposes, is simply out of topic. No smartphone or PDA manufacturer will produce a expensive product not enough tested and proved... without the bugs that our loved players are showing. Relationship is inverse... they produce a fully tested product and then add some gift like it is a camera or a mp3 player.

Just about every smartphone out there can play MP3s now and many MP4 and hardly any are being released that don't add a number of multimedia features to them, pure mail and excel displaying phones are no longer made or sold for the most part. As already pointed out the iPhone isn't just a "new wave" of MP3/4 player it is in fact an extension of you computer and then some, you might want to look into all the 3rd party sw tha has been developed for it to run on it natively.

Having worked in a production plant producing tens of thousands of mobilephones (for two of the largest mobilephone brands) for a decade as a Product Quality Engineer, on both the production and aftermarket refurbishing center I can tell you you'd be suprised what hits the market even among the two largest and oldest mobilephone names out there! If you haven't worked in the field (as is obvious from your statement) what exactly are you basing your opinions on? Care to share with us what mobilephones/sartphones you've owned and used under prolonged times for say things like 500 or so emails daily? I'll be glad to share my experiences with the GSM phones I've used for the past 16-17 years, which GSM phone were you using 15 yrs ago? (P.S. I did own and use mobilephone PRIOR to the dawn of GSM also since the late 80's when I also used emails over BBS'es)

Originally Posted by DaremoS

Sorry if I don't follow the disqualifications concerning the use of language... but we are here multinational people that express themselves as they want and can.

You didn't follow? If your comments are being readily coprehended then I'd say you might just have followed them

Actually how one expresses oneself on the web and on various forums is governed by other factors than what one "wants", but yes indeed there are forums in just about every language on the internet to the benefit of most native speakers. There are many forums out there that I wouldn't go out and express my opinionated statements just because I am not as fluent in those languages as I wouldwant to be, but I do read many of them regularly includig som with alphabets not native to me.