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Firmware 0.9.2.6 - official version
This is a discussion on Firmware 0.9.2.6 - official version within the M8 Firmware forums, part of the Meizu M8 category; Nope I don't use MDock, and thanks nice2know_u, I'm gonna do the same....
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08-12-2009 #101Member
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Thanked 2 Times in 2 PostsNope I don't use MDock, and thanks nice2know_u, I'm gonna do the same.
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08-12-2009 #102
Wake Up Meizu !!!!!
I think I have about 200 + posts here in this forum, majority of them have been positive, I have tested the device and the FW, posted concerns and solutions.
Most of the experience has been positive, but there is still a lot that needs to work.
I saw this phone in concept about 3 yrs ago, when it was just a drawing and nothing else, I studied the company and liked what they were doing with the Media Players. Then when finally it came out...had to pay for it to a friend in China, was on the waiting list for about 6 months, and finally early this year I got the phone. I am in the US so iPhone and BB's are most common here, but as I am a techie and this phone is based on Windows, I was glad to have it and really liked the capabilities of the phone.
BUT in the recent past I have been disappointed with what has been going on with the phone. In general, FW's when they come out build on what is already working and add/clean more functionality, the concept of a FW upgrade is a recent one, I do not remember ever to have to upgrade the FW for any of the other phones I have used in my life, but then again, I think is is a good concept, as it improves the user experience and creates a loyal following for a product or a service.
Meizu it seems has not been able to grasp this concept. Every FW they release, or is leaked (I am sure leaked on purpose) has new stuff, but the stuff that is already working OK is messed up. It is as if JW sitting in his office is doing this on purpose.
"Hey add a few things... but lets mess up something that worked"
seems to be the thinking.
Although there have been only 2 so called Official FW's things look bad. Now for God Sake, why would GPRS stop working in a FW that is 10-12 Fw's higher than the last official one???? There is no answer for that.. but hey, the phone is only meant for China.. not outside... I will come to that in a minute... But the thing is there are some basic functions that done work and have never worked to begin with.
A Cell phone is a communication device first and foremost so why why does the caller ID not work ?? why does the voice mail not work??? last week, it stopped giving out sound from the earpiece, how can you depend on a phone (Cell Phone has become a critical device in our lives now and is not just a fashion accessory) whiuch will stop working on it's own just about anytime... I have had to start carrying my old phone in case this one konks out and I need a working phone...
NOT GOOD......
Now coming to the question of "For China Only"
OS is not Chinese is it??, this site is not hosted in China, and this is not a potato grown in a field in a Chinese village so can only go a few miles and then will rot... This is technology, There are no Borders for Technology, I am sure most of the design for this phone did not happen in China, yes they are manufacturing it... but pretty sure it is not all Chinese... So to say International Customers not supported or will not be heard seems a little far fetched.
Someone a few posts earlier stated that we should be happy and knew what we were buying.. and not complain...
I lov(ed) this device, I could do stuff and customize it to my liking... but I feel cheated.
MEIZU you got to pull up your socks and feel the pain and work on the issues.
If there is a flaw or a new flaw... you have the moral responsibility to atleast explain or give a time line as to what is happening and what is coming, you already have our money... we need to get the worth back from you.
Take Note...
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08-12-2009 #103
That's why we're here to help with the China only part, it would be difficult to know when new firmwares would be released unless you wanted to dig in the official Meizu BBS, and plus the OS is practically Google translated.
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08-12-2009 #104
And we all appreciate it a lot, you do not have to do this, but you guys do...
If it was not for the wonderful programmers and translators here we would still be in the dark ages...
But looking at it... it is really not your responsibility, it is the responsibility of the manufacturer... you did not get my money they did...
Again I say this, the community here at this forum is a great bunch of people, everyone who has done anything to help other users has done it on their own time and effort and that is HIGHLY APPRECIATED.
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08-12-2009 #105Valued Member
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Thanked 189 Times in 130 Poststhat is why we are all contributing to this.
Meizu can praise them self happy, cause if they would play it smart they could become on of the larger players in this sector, but they need to understand that they may not block users out side china and they MUST allow other developers to help them, either by payant developper devices or other.
Wild guess but this could be the main issue with their development.practically Google translated.
I know ce core packages comes in french and english language,
maybe there occured translations errors while converting it from english to chinese...
pretty sure about it.. the firmwares that have been released so far contain lots of such faults.
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08-12-2009 #106Passing By
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Thanked 3 Times in 2 Postsi really don't understand what you guys are whining about. For god sake this is a China phone for China market. For those who got the phone outside of China please do not be spoil brat. U know what you are getting into else please sell the phone and get the hell from this forum.
this is a good phone who tried to do the best else you can pay the iphone value and you will not be whining about it, or u can just go back to the older firmware that so call "have the decent features". What decent hell is decent feature??? To call, receive, send Call and SMS are the decent features that already exist, so what the hell u guys are complaining.
You think your money is so good then go ahead and get others phones and don't look back cause you are a damn idiot who just don't do their research when getting the M8. You just don't know what u are getting into.
Oh ya you can kick your balls yourself right now cause you brought the M8 on your own. No one ask you to buy it. There are millions out there who are not complaining by the way and I'm one of them.
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Thanked 0 Times in 0 PostsRegd;- m8Profile
Guys,is M8 Profile working with the new FW
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08-12-2009 #108Freshman
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Thanked 1 Time in 1 PostThe part where 'associate *.ini with txtfile' i don't get.
i created:
filetype: inifile
executable: \windows\text.exe
file icon: windows\text.png
when i now browse to the 'UsrConnectNode' file and click it, it doesn't open. Do i have to get an asterix into the assocation, and if.... where do i find the asterix ?
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08-12-2009 #109French Moderator
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Thanked 55 Times in 43 Postsjust open it with your computer.
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08-12-2009 #111Passing By
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Thanked 1 Time in 1 Postwhy are you angry? I live in america, I am a developer I've been having my hands full with this SDK and figuring out what the deal is and dealing with foward and backwards translations...this phone is honestly a pain in the butt, to develop for. Its a pain that Meizu doesn't seem to want to help developers of all languages develop for their beautiful phone. Its a shame that their firm ware upgrades are doing nothing to fix basic issues, its a shame that they care little to none about input from the international community. It makes me sad that such an incredible phone is being so narrow and limited.
I get it, its a chinese phone for chinese people...blah blah blah. Narrow sighted businesses never succeed. The world is a big place, there are people who want to help, who want to develop who want to see meizu succeed...we are not being spoiled brats, we WANT TO HELP.
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Thanked 0 Times in 0 PostsI guess we should create a special thread : "if you hate your M8 complain here" so that we can stick with the subject of this one!!!! ;p
btw, this fw works perfectly for me except a few things:
- mms says send but nothing goes to the receiver...
- and when i call someone and reach the voicemail box i can't hear any sound and can't leave any msg... i don't know if it is from the phone or from my provider...
Just to react, a lot of people have been complaining but has anyone had a phone that evolves as this one? because i think that (even if it is not perfect, not at all...) the fact that we can update it so easily is a very good thing and i just hope that we will soon have a (almost)perfect fw!
Also if people want an easy phone wich is perfect for almost everyboy buy an Iphone, i don't understand people complaining since they knew that the Iphone have very good specs (speaking about 3G, GPS, tons of apps etc...) so why did those guys buy a M8? just to say "i am different from the simple people that buy Iphones"?
I know it irritates to constantly have bugs but it is evelving constantly and the basic functions are working fine (for me) and even if i can't get IGO to work (if someone could help me btw i would be glad lol) i am still happy with this phone!!
PS: i know i said it is not the place to speak about this but i forgot... sorry
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You say that you cant send mms and you cant leave any msg..
however u say in the end that all basic functions work!!!!!????
And i think there is one misunderstanding here...
we are questioning the work that people do in this forum,without them i would had give up on the phone from the very first month.They should ask for credit from meizu because obviously the do more responsible work than meizu does.
and some info for you because i saw some1 said that this is chinese phone for china market...well just to let u know currently there are more meizu users abroad than in China!!!!!! only the russian meizu users match the chinese!!!
I live in China and trust me on this chinese like their phones BIG actually HUGE and with buttons..they love buttons!!!!
The point is we are not spoiling the actual phone here but MEIZU,we just dont want to think we are stupid. Because this is what they do...i live with them(chinese) every day..they think they can make everything throw it out in the market and the stupid/rich western people will buy it!!!
And as far as i know what happen here is that since apple didnt have agreement with china for the iphone..meizu see it as a nice opportunity to make some money with a cool touchscreen phone.and since they manage to do that (making money) they will not really bother working on a FW where all basic functions actually work.
M8 has the potential to be a great phone...just not under MEIZU..they just cant!
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Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post@rekado + myws01 = First off, keep reading!! If u guys wanna keep mentioning bout me kicking meizu in the balls its called frustration! Why?? Because where i live in the awareness of a phone such as the M8 is literally zero! So i myself have already brought in 3 units and still have orders to get the phone for even more people! Now as i said in a newer post i have nothing against the hardware for i'm a handphone dealer and trust me when i tell you guys that this phone has really really good hardware in comparison to some other high end 'branded' phones! The purpose of sounding off is due to the fact that newer firmwares should hold better improvements then previous ones take for example, the iphones firmwares, now dont get me wrong, i DO NOT support the iphone! Now criticism is always constructive but then again i see some of you getting angry over other peoples comments/criticisms or frustrations so if you think we are the ones being spoiled brats, look in the mirror and ask yourself what are you angry about? Are we insulting your mother or your company? And about china companies, I USED TO WORK IN ONE. Now, sorry for ranting so much but i believe the users here who share the same frustration with me would agree with me that if a FW isnt up to specs, why release it?? Wont it spare the complains and the untowardly hostilities that suddenly spring up between us fellow forumers who in the first place absolutely LOVE the M8? Peace and sorry to you guys if you found what i have to say offensive but i'm merely voicing my opinion as all of you are as well. Peace!
p.s- i hope the next FW doesnt blow!
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Thanked 6 Times in 3 PostsAltough I am not Chinese but I currently live and work in China, so it means I am part of your "China market", right? Still I have lots of problems with the phone and most of them are not related to internationalization.
I bought the phone because I owned a Meizu mp3 player and I liked it as it had good hardware and software. This is why I thought that the M8 will be as good as other Meizu products. Unfortunately it turned out that the M8 software is a big stinking pile of bugs. Moreover Meizu is not doing anything to make the software better. Remember that there is still no final software for the M8 more than half year after it was released? Do you think it is normal? I have never heard anything like this before in my life! Even the noname 500 RMB Chinese phones are better mobile phones than the M8 now! My M8 cost 2500 RMB (16 GB version) and for this much money you can buy a quite decent phone in your "China market"! Did Meizu tell any of its customers that the M8 software is full of bugs and it won't have a final software more than half year after it was released? Of course not, Meizu did what companies sometimes do: using its brand and the trust of its current customers to sell an unfinished product.
Can you back up your statement? Do you even know more than one person who uses the M8 and is satisfied with it? Have you ever been in China, have you ever asked a Chinese person using an M8 about his opinion? I have Chinese colleagues who use M8 and they are also waiting for the new official firmware as well. Did you see the Chinese BBS forum where they made a countdown on 10th August for the new firmware and they were waiting for it even after 9 PM (Beijing time)? Do you think everybody will be waiting for the new firmware so desperately if everything is working fine, like you said? Of course not.
By the way, as far as I know Chinese people, it seems they do not like to complain. It doesn't mean they don't notice the problems, they just learn to live with them. But this doesn't mean they are happy with them.
You are being a bit rude, aren't you? Do you know that this is a forum for M8 users? So technically every person who owns an M8 can write here? Do you also know that people can write here their bad experiences with their M8, not only the good ones? On the other hand, do you know that you have to be polite even in a forum like this or you may get banned? So moderate yourself or (I am qouting you): "get the hell from this forum".
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Thanked 173 Times in 72 PostsJust wait for android, at least android is multilanguage!
And maybe the new ui will get them to releasing it internationally
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Thanked 1 Time in 1 PostI wont be surprised if the CE/Android project here comes out faster then meizu's! LOL ^^
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08-13-2009 #119rekadoGuest
For the record: I don't think anyone in his right mind would condone of Meizu's methods of promising a working phone years ago, delaying it repeatedly, finally releasing it with many features dropped and a quirky interface, and not being able to deliver an acceptable firmware months after the initial release of the phone.
Neither do I.
I also think that the current firmware is much worse than the one I had installed before. The quirkiness got even "quirkier"...
So I'm with you guys on this.
What I think, however, is neither productive nor a sign of tolerance is to show a tendency of judging nationalities by one company's (or many if you will, it doesn't actually matter) misconduct.
I also would like to have a strong phone with a somewhat predictable and controllable behavior (I'm an Arch Linux user, striving for KISS), and it bothers me that Meizu knows how to delay the maturity of their attractive device (which makes it a toy or a development version of what could be a great phone-swiss-knife-shaver-terminal-blender-multimedia-thingy).
Don't get me wrong, please. I'm not opposed to the notion that people can get pissed about the company that produced the cell I'm using (big deal...). I also am, but I wouldn't go that far to underestimate businesses in Asia for the reason that my phone's firmware sucks...
(I also believe that being able to speak another one's native language is a big advantage to avoid misunderstandings and to overcome cultural differences. Sad to say that many difficulties or prejudices against Chinese people come from bad experiences with incapable individuals. But I digress...)
Still, I haven't had any of the mentioned issues during calls or related to SMS etc. Could it be that some issues are dependent on the service provider (this is directed to the international customers in China)?
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08-13-2009 #120rekadoGuest
Where do you live in China? I live in south-west Shanghai and I haven't noticed many people carrying around huge cells with many buttons. Instead most often I see those hideous touch screen phones (about 2cm thick) where you need a stylus. (Liu De Hua is advertising these.... well, fits well to his music...)
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One more note: when I said something about this being a Chinese phone for mainly Chinese customers, what I actually meant was this: Meizu is a noobie in the cell phone market; given that it seems understandable (while not acceptable) that they get to test it in China only. When it works in China, they are happy with it.
Guessing that Chinese network designs almost certainly differ from the old grown nets in the west, I'm confident that this testing routine (which basically seems to be non-existant for devices operating in the west) is the root of all evil.
I could be wrong, though...
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