Oct, Nov, Dec, or later?

Statistically speaking, Meizu has never made any time-expectation concerning the m8. So they'll either release it before the end of the year making their claim true, or they'll get some more unexpected delays (licenses, power consumption, bugs) which will make the final release around Spring.

On the other hand the release was supposed to happen around the same time last year as well, so we'll see how things go this year.

Jack Wong said it would be October or November at the latest. He said they were waiting for the license. You think it's going to be released in Spring? At this point I think that's pessimistic.

did he also say october or november of what year? perhaps 2009 ? (i'm hoping 2008 of course)

Perhaps 2012? http://www.meizume.com/minione-m8/67...on-needed.html

According to this page, 16GB moviNAND chips are still not in mass production but 8GB chips are.

SAMSUNG Semiconductor - products - Fusion Memory - MoviNAND™

this does not mean they can not put 2 chips in with 8GB each, perhaps the 8gb model will contain 2 * 4GB instead of 1 of 8GB?

Originally Posted by roelandb

this does not mean they can not put 2 chips in with 8GB each, perhaps the 8gb model will contain 2 * 4GB instead of 1 of 8GB?

the sample M8 board which post by JW early ，is show have 2 Memory chip area，1 chip comfirmed is 8GB MoviNAND， so highly possible will be use 8GB x 2 and total become 16GB

nokia 5800
samsung omnia
htc hd

bie , bie meizu

I have used the Samsung omnia extensively, Very unfriendly, sluggish, poor interface, poor video playback, average sound, average screen, unresponsive to touch. If you want to use windows mobile you can enoy that, I would rather any other OS on the planet, and anyone who wants an enjoyable user expereince will do the same, so that counts out the HTC HD aswell.

Nokia 5800, looks ok, that it though just ok. Very ugly looking interface too, not much design innovation, average spec, weak codec support.

I would much prefer to wait for the M8 personally, but the choice is yours.

Originally Posted by gh0st125

when it's released in china, what do you think, how long does it take to be released in Europe (especially in Germany)?

Well, somewhere in Feb. of March 2009.... hopefully

Originally Posted by SteveMB93

Jack Wong said it would be October or November at the latest. He said they were waiting for the license. You think it's going to be released in Spring? At this point I think that's pessimistic.

Wow, and what Jack Wong says is always true right?

Meizu hasn't given me anything to become optimistic about in the past 19 months. Meizu hasn't proven anything with the m8 being worth waiting for.

I'll vote November because a Meizu reseller told me today they'd have them by then...8GB, 2499RMB.

Don't really have anything better to go on.

Will it be available in Ukraine?

Originally Posted by chengdude

I'll vote November because a Meizu reseller told me today they'd have them by then...8GB, 2499RMB.

Don't really have anything better to go on.

Sounds great!

Originally Posted by Grossmeister

Will it be available in Ukraine?

No. But you can import them from China.

Originally Posted by dole_95

No. But you can import them from China.

China only? What about Korea? Hope it will be available on Gmarket.

Originally Posted by Grossmeister

China only? What about Korea? Hope it will be available on Gmarket.

I think that the first version will only be released in China (there are also some rumors that it will be released in India too). The second version of M8 (with 3G, GPS etc. will be released worldwide, but it will take month (or year(s)) before it will be released.

Originally Posted by dole_95

I think that the first version will only be released in China (there are also some rumors that it will be released in India too). The second version of M8 (with 3G, GPS etc. will be released worldwide, but it will take month (or year(s)) before it will be released.

since the international market is big for meizu, in my opinion it should be out within 6 months or so. it would make no sense to wait years with the release of the 3g version.

Originally Posted by DusL

Wow, and what Jack Wong says is always true right?

Meizu hasn't given me anything to become optimistic about in the past 19 months. Meizu hasn't proven anything with the m8 being worth waiting for.

"Statistically speaking, Meizu has never made any time-expectation concerning the m8."

That's what you said in a post. A lot of others like me have been pretty happy with the release of the video and more details on the phone. How could you not be optimistic? Oh wait, you're an Apple fanboy.

Haha, funny.

Aren't you the Meizu-fanboy yourself? You're giving me the impression that a Apple fanboy is a bad thing. What does that make you?
What Jack Wong says is always true right?
You're basing your optimism on what he is telling you, isn't that great.

Like I said, Meizu missed any time-expectation with those video's and supposed details, we're still prasing Meizu off a feature-list that is already 8 months old by now. Compatibility with WinMo/WinCE applications is unknown. The situation of avi-playback with B-frames and no conversion is still unknown. The story about energy consumption thus battery life is still unknown. Whether Meizu will actually get the mobile license is still unknown. Whether they actually completed features like usb-host is still unknown. Whether the touch-screen is quick and responsive (even major phonecompanies manage not to pull this one off) is still unknown, the CeBIT-model has it's "reasons" to suck in touch capability.

Meanwhile, some of the supposed features are getting weaker of even weaked off. One may say the lack of 3g doesn't mean a thing, but other people may actually enjoy having fast internet everywhere. The 16gig version has suddenly become something which will not be present in the initial release, much like 3g. Rmvb playback has now become some crippled feature with no fluent playback. WiFi may easily become some locked thingie which does not work out-of-the-box and has to be "hacked" to work.

Yeah, me being an Apple fanboy is the bottom reason of asking myself the above questions and being somewhat cynical when people stamp and convey it as the iPhone-killer which will crush the iPhone. Yes, I have a iPhone; this is the thing that makes me concerned when seeing Meizu doing it's thing. The iPhone is incredibly feature-rich and contains endless possiblities even with the lack of copy-paste, removable battery, 720x480 resolution screen and the lack of lacking iTunes. All these Meizu-fans are a bit easy in saying the m8 will reach this level with no problems.

I got myself carried away again...

Am I a Meizu fanboy? I'm not really sure. Who cares if I am one anyways. This is a "Fansite and Forum for Meizu Products", as it says in the top right corner. If you couldn't find that. I'm not saying that being an Apple fanboy is bad, but when you constantly praise the iPhone it is.

Are you really that stupid that you can't read what I said and transform my words into something that I didn't say. I saw that video on the M8, which gave me a lot more hope in the M8 project. You're telling me that whatever Jack Wong says, I will believe him? That's funny, I don't remember him talking in the video at all.

The beta testing had already started, which tells me that Jack Wong wasn't lying when he said there would be beta testing and it's good to know that they are already testing it. That's tells me that it's close to it's retail release.

The spec list isn't 8 months old. They just updated the RAM and CPU recently. If you didn't know, the CPU is now 800MHZ and the RAM is 256MB. I'm not that worried about the B-Frame situation. It's only a matter of time before it is fully sorted out. But if I recall correctly, it would be through software?

"we're praising" You're don't praise the M8 at all, you put it down alot. The touchscreen seemed pretty responsive to me in the video and that was an early firmware build. It was definitely faster than the iPhone 3G that I had. Lack of 3G is no big deal for me, and for most in the US as well. It is very expensive here and the coverage is pretty spotty. I'm not sure about the Netherlands, but that is not a large market for the M8 at all, especially compared to China and the US.

How are the features getting weaker? The CPU went from 667MHZ to 800MHZ and the amount of RAM doubled, going from 128MB to 256MB. Was it ever said that the 16GB would be released along with the 8GB? the 16GB moviNAND chips are still not in mass production by Samsung. The 8GB chips are.

How many people use RMVB outside of China? Didn't Jack Wong say that RMVB would be available for an extra price (I'm not sure, that's what I thought he said)? I don't use RMVB at all, and to tell you the truth I don't think many in the US have ever used RMVB.

In China they don't use Wi-Fi so Jack Wong has to lock Wi-Fi for China. He said it would be unlocked for other users. So I'm assuming there's a software update for users outside of China so they can use Wi-Fi.

I don't think the Meizu will have a big problem passing the iPhone in overall features. What's stopping it? It has a removable battery, USB OTG, 720x480 LCD, is unlocked, will have a better camera (the iPhone has the worst camera for a "smartphone"), can record video, and you aren't locked to iTunes, the most bloated music software ever.

i'm afraid that since they will only sell the m8 first version inside of china, that there will not be any wifi available for us (in the first few months at least)
perhaps it will only be enabled in the devices with 3g also...
i really hope to be wrong, but it's a possibility.