Windows CE??

I've just read that the m8 will use windows CE? Does that mean that this expensive tom tom software I bought for my PDA will be totally useless on this thing? There seems to be a lot of confusion and I probably wont really know til i get hold on one of these things which at the rate meizu are going, will be never!

What sat nav software can run on CE?

If I'm off track then it's because the m8 development has been more all over the place than a woman going through her monthly halal menstrual cycle and I CANT KEEP UP!

I like the phone, i miss the silver / windows design and I want sat nav on it. Anybody able to confirm anything?

99.9% of the satnav units (PNA) are using Windows CE, it is just a gues, but I think that navigation software that was designed for PNA will work.
It does not need installation, just run the .exe file and you can go.
This is my idea, I am not a specialist. I have a WM6 PDA and I can run Miomap for PNA on it.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Yeah, your tomtom will work, but you need to hack/modify it.

Hack? Modify? Nothing at all, just drop everything on my memory card, tab on the .EXE file and start navigating. A Windows Mobile divice is not like a iPhone that needs to be hacked to run 3rd party application on it.

How about just waiting till the M8's out and just taking a look at how well it handles 3rd party apps?

Originally Posted by hotboxx

Hack? Modify? Nothing at all, just drop everything on my memory card, tab on the .EXE file and start navigating. A Windows Mobile divice is not like a iPhone that needs to be hacked to run 3rd party application on it.

What do you know about that? Do you own a device that use WinCE as a core? You know that Meizu M8 will run a modified version of WinCE? It doesn't has all the requiered dll's and other sys-files to get WinCE programs to work property.

Originally Posted by Speeder

How about just waiting till the M8's out and just taking a look at how well it handles 3rd party apps?

To get an idea of how well it is expected to run them, so you can figure out whether it's worth the wait?

i agree on the point to wait until it is launched before making any judgment.

On the other side, even iff it is modified by meizu and it misses any dll or other that is not a big disaster, cause you can allways import those files to the rom or on a ram disk ..

On the same idea you can change the complete os it runs, like so is done on devices from HTC, , how is that forum called, howard forum? make some research..
they seem to be able to built there own rom image , so this device can do the same normaly,

a nice idea would become to import a clean and full ce or WM6 or even the android os from google since this could also become interesting and has many new developers.

Originally Posted by dole_95

What do you know about that? Do you own a device that use WinCE as a core? You know that Meizu M8 will run a modified version of WinCE? It doesn't has all the requiered dll's and other sys-files to get WinCE programs to work property.

It would not make sense for meizu to remove any standard libs. More work for a less attractive phone with potential dependency-problems?

can u easy change the os? is threre no problem with the drivers?

How would you change the OS?

Wait, does that mean I can install iPhone firmware on my future M8??

lol , it would be possible in theory to place iphone firmware to m8 i´m guessing, but just placing on to it would ruin youre m8, cause drivers will not be correct for this device (sounds logic is it not? ) And surplus you would need to repack the firmware to a bin file that can be accesed by the m8 bootloader ofcourse otherwise it will give the remark : non proper firmware

in short : yes iff.. :-)

iff it will be difficult, yes i´m guessing that there would be done some research to it, and morely you would need an sdk, from meizu or MS for the Ce os, and maybe for the best also an real firmware image that belongs to meizu m8 model.

According the android os, not sure about it how it would work , this is an open source os, so it could be built to work on m8
take a look here why it would be interesting tho have it on m8 :YouTube - Android Dream video live demo Intro and more!

iff any one is interested in custom firmware take a look here :xda-developers - Powered by vBulletin
there you would be able to read somethings about it.


question, why the heck would you like the iphone os onto m8? ;-)

and about SDK, iff its truely win CE, take a look here Download details: Windows CE: Standard Software Development Kit (SDK)

Originally Posted by dole_95

What do you know about that? Do you own a device that use WinCE as a core? You know that Meizu M8 will run a modified version of WinCE? It doesn't has all the requiered dll's and other sys-files to get WinCE programs to work property.

What is your point?

With some hacking, other OS's will be able to run on it.

Well, in my oppinion noone can say anything sure about compatibility other than Meizu. What's sure is that it would be possible to make the WinCE OS run programs written with the WinCE programing interface. Either Meizu does some for it or random people do something for that. Some programs won't run most probably that were written in a way that they use WinMO specific modules to run. In that case, we could try jumping in maybe to get in some WinMO modules and hacking the progs around to run, but that's not something one would count on when buying a mobile.
Imo, just wait and see. You won't die till x-mas without a top-class mobile phone.

Originally Posted by Speeder

but that's not something one would count on when buying a mobile.

The brainwashed iPhone geeks have no problem with that.

Originally Posted by hotboxx

The brainwashed iPhone geeks have no problem with that.

So? What's your point.

Why are iPhone geeks brainwashed?

Originally Posted by DusL

So? What's your point.

Why are iPhone geeks brainwashed?

They get excited because they need to push "call" to make a phone call, something I am used to do since 12 years.

dudes, some people buy stuff to use them how they are, some just for playing around or search for limitations and hacks..
Iphone geek or not, it does not matther at all.

For the moment iphone is a nice toy, just like nokia 3210 in time was.

a little back on topic.
I´ve made some research for my own, like mentioned early, i myself would not see myself working with CE.
But that doesnt mean that iff one day this comes out i would not buy it cause iff it is possible to place linux on an iphone with dual boot, and iff it is possible to place Android on WM..
it is certainly possible to place android on this m8.
So what ever os is injected by meizu, lets pray it is some ms stuff, then it is easy to hack...
Also by now we can be sure that iff the m8 comes with an ARM11 it can run adroid by nature (see : "Android" Phones Unveiled, but Still Half-Baked : Ben Patterson : Yahoo! Tech ) and it is capable to run wm6 (see : Wapedia - Wiki: Smartphone )

I don't see the problem about WinCE ...

If there are WinMO apps one need to get running it would be possible to copy the DLLs from a WinMO phone in many cases. In other cases it could be possible to write wrappers modifying and redirecting some calls, but really ...

It is Windows. And Windows can be hacked to do what you need it to do ...

Easy as that. (Of course there are differences, but WinCE/WinMO is not THAT different from the desktop Windows).