M8 price increased，now $372 for 8GB,$440 for 16GB

sere83 · 06-15-2008

the thing is, certain people may be expecting something very similar to the iphone in terms of the M8's GUi and touch interface but there is a high possiblity Meizu simply won't deliver. Lets face it no other company to date has created such a well implemented finger based touch screen and GUI for a mobile device. The chance of a small Chinese company putting together something to match it seems unlikely.

As much as I don't like quite a few features (or lack of) on the iphone, the touch screen is pretty flawless. The interface very rarely hangs. This is one major advantage the iphone has over the competition, the touch interface is just so smooth and seemless and really is a joy to use.

I would be very very suprised if Meizu manage to produce a touch interface as responsive and smooth as that of the iphone. This is a huge reason why so many love the iphone, and why it was so hyped in the 1st place, because there is nothing on the market quite like it, particularly in terms of how well the hardware-software integration. Apple have set the bench mark next to which all touch screen mobile device will be measured. You can see why the iphone took 2 years to develop and at the end of the day IMO the use of a multitouch panel was a stroke of genius on apples part.

In addition while I'm excited about seeing a 720x480 res screen this is obviously causing Meizu no end of problems. I mean the HVGA 480x320 panel on the iphone and ipod touch is really very sharp and crisp anyway.

dontripmeoff · 06-15-2008

Originally Posted by sere83

the thing is, certain people may be expecting something very similar to the iphone in terms of the M8's GUi and touch interface but there is a high possiblity Meizu simply won't deliver. Lets face it no other company to date has created such a well implemented finger based touch screen and GUI for a mobile device. The chance of a small Chinese company putting together something to match it seems unlikely.

As much as I don't like quite a few features (or lack of) on the iphone, the touch screen is pretty flawless. The interface very rarely hangs. This is one major advantage the iphone has over the competition, the touch interface is just so smooth and seemless and really is a joy to use.

I would be very very suprised if Meizu manage to produce a touch interface as responsive and smooth as that of the iphone. This is a huge reason why so many love the iphone, and why it was so hyped in the 1st place, because there is nothing on the market quite like it, particularly in terms of how well the hardware-software integration. Apple have set the bench mark next to which all touch screen mobile device will be measured. You can see why the iphone took 2 years to develop and at the end of the day IMO the use of a multitouch panel was a stroke of genius on apples part.

In addition while I'm excited about seeing a 720x480 res screen this is obviously causing Meizu no end of problems. I mean the HVGA 480x320 panel on the iphone and ipod touch is really very sharp and crisp anyway.

I would disagree. The Nvidia Design interface and demo phone they were advertising trying to get phone companies to buy into was down right sweet and screen looked better than the Iphone and just as fast if not faster in touch demonstrations. I think they could give apple a run for their money. I am still gonna buy the iphone3g (well actually I'm gonna trade the Iphone i just bought in for the new iphone on July 11th.) Its a sweet deal actaully you buy the current for $199 and get the current $59 a month pricing and just swap the iphone1.0 for the 2.0 and don't have to pay the $10 extra monthly fee new users get when they sign up. Also if Att tries to force me change my plan I get out of the contract free with Iphone in hand. So either way I win until the M8 is delivered as we see if it is worth the money or not.

SteveMB93 · 06-15-2008

I'm sorry to hear that you have to use AT&T.

DusL, you haven't been waiting 18 months for it to be in stores. We're you expecting it to be in stores right when it was announced? It has been delayed, but you haven't been waiting that long for it to be in stores.

doctordoc8 · 06-16-2008

All those complaining about the price......are you cheapskates or something??????????????????????

the price for the m8 is superb, there is no other phone that even comes close in performance which has such a low price. If this was a phone in UK with the given features it would cost atleast £400, although its being incredibly delayed its still the only iphone competitor.

burnfox · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by M47Z

Nobody will have to "crack" the M8, because its an open OS, not like the IPhone

You don't get my point at all,I don't mean to hacking Meizu-OS itself,I mean to cracking those sharewares build under the M8's SDK which want to earning profits.

By the way,I have no confidence that Meizu-OS SDK will come out with the phone at the same time,just keeping your patient.

DusL · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by SteveMB93

I'm sorry to hear that you have to use AT&T.

DusL, you haven't been waiting 18 months for it to be in stores. We're you expecting it to be in stores right when it was announced? It has been delayed, but you haven't been waiting that long for it to be in stores.

How is that reaction supposed to break my argumentation? I'm still figuring that one out.

Meizu announces product -> product will be available in stores "soon" (Q3 '07) -> myself patiently waits from january on "for it to be in stores"! -> there you have it, I waited 18 months for it to come in stores.

It is either this explanation above, or you didn't see the concept of figurative speech when I mentioned my local store. (or both)

iversonjack · 06-16-2008

well that blows... i guess iphone go

dontripmeoff · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by SteveMB93

I'm sorry to hear that you have to use AT&T.

I really don't mind as I just hand over a copy of the bill to my finance manager and my work foots the monthly bill. Like I said I have Zero to lose as I can sell the non contract Iphone for more than the $199 it cost me if I decide to leave (well once att screws up the contract which will happen). So far I would agree with some of the short comings of the Iphone 1.0. Download speeds are only fair other than on wifi. The screen is nice and the UI is impressive. Again I think Nvidia's new UI and chip would give the "I' a run for it's money.
Well until july 11th I'll play with this one and swap it out for free and get the 2.0. I want to test it's push capability to see if it works as good as my blackberry. If so the BB will take a back seat for a while. Anyway I know some of you could care less and hope that the "I" goes away along with it followers. Really though it brings competition to the forefront and gives companies goals in which to reach and exceed. Continual evolution in the process just makes us all winners in the long run. If the M8 can out do this phone (& 2.0) it truly will be a thing of immense beauty. I look forward to getting an M8 this September with the rest of you!

darkado · 06-16-2008

let's just hope we'll get it in september

Skinny101 · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by darkado

no it's not

yes it is, the 8GB N95 was released in August 2007 and the iPhone in July 2007.

Sunless · 06-16-2008

compared to iphone, m8 is still very cheap, i think.16gb iphone's price is 6447RMB in china while 16gb m8 is sold about 3000....$199's iphone is only a dream, a remote dream.....

haXXa · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by burnfox

You don't get my point at all,I don't mean to hacking Meizu-OS itself,I mean to cracking those sharewares build under the M8's SDK which want to earning profits.

By the way,I have no confidence that Meizu-OS SDK will come out with the phone at the same time,just keeping your patient.

Developers don't need no Meizu SDK.

The WinCE SDK will do fine.

Or even better. .NET 2.
.NET allows rapid development of good applications.

Th3_uN1Qu3 · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by burnfox

Oh Th3_uN1Qu3,poor boy(or girl),I have my iPhone for nearly half a year,almost 100 apps installed I guess,and I never reinstall them from zero after "iPhone PC Suite" released,with this tool,the reinstall thing just gone (for ever maybe),even when iPhone stuck on boot (showing Apple logo,often happens after some new app installed),you can easliy plug cable,and use this tool,doing something to repair.

Meizu is just such a small company even in developing China,all of its properties may no match for the profits earned by Apple in a quarter of a year,now with 100 million yuan loan from a commerce bank,what he(J.W) want to do,may not be done.

You may expect M8,just take my advice:don't expect too much,it may hurt.

Well i'm a boy, and certainly not a rich one but not poor as you said either.

My classmate Paul has had his iphone since November last year, and it has crashed 4 times for him, every time requiring a full firmware reinstall. He wants to sell it now. And as i said above i had his iphone for a few days and played with it after i reinstalled its firmware, and for me the biggest turnoffs were that the sound quality sucked and that the speaker had a very low volume.

I mean,

1. It's a media player, so i expect it to sound GOOD. When i plug my DJ headphones into something and it sounds like rubbish it means that device isn't even worth looking at. My old Actions-based MP4 sounded better than that.

2. It's a phone. You are supposed to be able to hear when it rings, also you are supposed to be able to actually use that bluetooth.

Besides, when did this discussion turn into "apple rox they hav more $$$ than meizu meizu sux iphone roxx0rs!!!!111!!!" ??? I know Meizu are a small company. And that makes it even more impressive that they got involved in such a major project.

burnfox · 06-16-2008

I must apologize for my very basic English,the "poor",actually I don't mean "not rich",but "sorry for you reinstall so many times",maybe "pitiful" would be more properly?I'm still not sure.

but I sure "iPhone PC Suite" is such a great iPhone PC partner,try it,you won't regret it,it have a English interface,need Microsoft .NET Framwork 2.0.

Indeed,iPhone is not a Top-Class audio player,but for me it's just fine,It's a Top-Class PDA for me,better than all of the Microsoft system based PPCs,though it still lacks of softwares and features,what I need are all done.

Wiki2touch is my best friend,it's make me could almost knowing everyting.
textReader has a much better reading experience than Haalireader on Windows mobile.
So many games that I can't install them all,those take advantage of accelerometer are much more interesting than games on the other PDAs.

What I most expecting from iPhone rivals,are phones based on Google Android ,touch screen edition.this editon learns a lot from iPhone,but I think it will be better,maybe some of them will be the "iPhone perfect edition ".

Apologize for my English,again,I still can't handle it well.

darkado · 06-16-2008

Originally Posted by Skinny101

yes it is, the 8GB N95 was released in August 2007 and the iPhone in July 2007.

no one was talking about the 8gb version. burnfox, stop saying meizu os, you retard

haXXa · 06-16-2008

@darkado
There is no reason what so ever to call anyone retards.
As far as I am concerned beeing a "retard" is rather a condition than a curse word.

@burnfox
Yeah, the iPhone and iPhone 2 are interesting phones, but they also got flaws.

In a earlier post you refer to the appstore in iTunes. Beein secure - DRM and stuff making it hard to pirate applications.

I don't beleve this is a valid point. What is made by one human is outsmarted by another.

Also rumors say that the iPhone SDK is a blast. That is of course a good thing, but it is propaply nothing compared to .NET. Of course there are drawbacks with bytecode also (ie. really easy to decompile), but all in all i don't think the SDK issues should be restricting to the M8 when it is released (if. I am starting to get serous doubts if they are unable to present a video of a working prototype).

I think what the "Meizu SDK" would add (primary) is multitouch capabilities, and the customized GUI.

So in my opinion the M8 is a really interesting phone. Sure gonna get one.
Just hoping for them beeing able get it to the market.

As for the iPhone.
I really never cared about fashion. I tried one, and it was fun for five minutes. From there I started getting annoyed over small details a new phone should be able to do (Bluetooth file-transfer anyone?).
Also ppl. would see the irony in it if I got a Apple product.
I am one of the only in my circle critizing Apple and their products for certain lacks of/bad implemented functions and the ways they do things.

Their Mac vs. Pc campaign with it sublime message makes me get sick.
"PC's are for nerds - Macs get you laid"

What they don't say a word about is that Macs now technically are PCs.

Please don't get me wrong. I don't hate Apple, but they certainly are not a god.

They really got some good ideas, but they fuck up on other things.
As I don't like beeing locked in any way, nor pay twice the price for the same H/W I simply buy other brands.

Best regards
haXXa

I am sorry for my bad English. It is not my native language.

darkado · 06-16-2008

i'm sorry, i just got pissed of i didn;t mean to insult anyone

burnfox · 06-17-2008

Excuse me,haXXa,are your Chinese?Maybe we could talk about this in Chinese,my native language(maybe yours,too?).

What Meizu OS you say is just thinking, and the iPhond SDK I say is seeing,Seeing is believing,I could not tell that Meizu OS SDK would scarcely comparable to iPhone SDK,but iPhone SDK does exist,and Meizu OS SDK still a J.W talking.If you are knowing J.W better,you may should know,what J.W saying,just a saying,until they come true,can't be convinced.

Jubre · 06-17-2008

@ burnfox:
The M8 doesn't have an original OS, it runs on WinCE. Meizu is just adding a shell or a skin on top of it, and maybe some features dealing with multi-touch. Presumably, the WinCE SDK will be sufficient to make applications for the M8. This means you could use Visual studio (for native apps), or .net to make applications with.

What you don't seem to know however, is that the iphone SDK has restrictions which don't allow third party applications, a major one being that you can't run third party applications in the background (for example: you can't take a phone call or send a message while running your application).

haXXa · 06-17-2008

Originally Posted by burnfox

Excuse me,haXXa,are your Chinese?Maybe we could talk about this in Chinese,my native language(maybe yours,too?).

What Meizu OS you say is just thinking, and the iPhond SDK I say is seeing,Seeing is believing,I could not tell that Meizu OS SDK would scarcely comparable to iPhone SDK,but iPhone SDK does exist,and Meizu OS SDK still a J.W talking.If you are knowing J.W better,you may should know,what J.W saying,just a saying,until they come true,can't be convinced.

I've got a Chinese stepmother. And the only thing I realized from it is that I could not manage to learn your language in a million years

About the "Meizu OS"/"Meizu SDK". What Jubre said.

Windows CE is a stable and solid platform. Meizu don't mess to much with the internals when they customize it for the M8. What they are consentrating on is if I'm not wrong the user interface, and a kernel driver for the multitouch.

Just hoping the M8 is not a air castle. My N73 is getting ready for replacing.
Preferably before christmas.