A small M8 education for those losing faith.

the flash will be gone within 1000 write cycles (ok - that will be 2 years, but not guaranty).

no, it's about 100,000 write-erase-cycles. even if it was nor flash then it would be 10000 write cycles. not 1000. thus it'll be 20 years min if your calculations are right, what I personally doubt.

The M8 won't be competing with the iPhone, it's aimed MOSTLY towards China. The US matters, but not as much as China does. Really? I am a fanboy just because I dislike a company? I believe you are the fanboy for defending the iPhone all the time.

@dontripmeoff:

Okay... admittedly, I don't know much about the cellular business in the U.S. so I cannot argue. I just called it a "monopolist strategy", because from your post it sounded like AT&T were using their economic power as an advantage to destroy the competition (which would classify as monopolistic).

Anyway, sorry saying that nonsense then :P

traps, i actually think you're right, it is monopolism. remember when ms got sued for bundling ie, media player etc. with their os (win xp) and suffocating other devs. and dontripmeoff 7 carriers doesn't mean that much if one of them is giving stuff at unrealisticaly low prices because it has a deal with the company that makes that stuff, that is classic monopolism.

Originally Posted by darkado

traps, i actually think you're right, it is monopolism. remember when ms got sued for bundling ie, media player etc. with their os (win xp) and suffocating other devs. and dontripmeoff 7 carriers doesn't mean that much if one of them is giving stuff at unrealisticaly low prices because it has a deal with the company that makes that stuff, that is classic monopolism.

Well, I'm not really the one to judge, since I don't know much about how it works in the U.S... but yeah, that was the impression I got at first sight.

Either way, that market system looks way too aggressive to me...

Originally Posted by darkado

traps, i actually think you're right, it is monopolism. remember when ms got sued for bundling ie, media player etc. with their os (win xp) and suffocating other devs. and dontripmeoff 7 carriers doesn't mean that much if one of them is giving stuff at unrealisticaly low prices because it has a deal with the company that makes that stuff, that is classic monopolism.

I understand your feelings of it being a monopoly. To give $200 off is a normal amount here. I.E. (Moto Razr(when 1st out), Treo's, Blackberry's, HTC , Every single phone company here uses the same deal. They all kick in $100-$300 off the price to attract their customers. It is a Standard Operating Procedure here. So again not Monopolistic, Just Everyday Normal!

As per MS they are a monopoly as it is them / Apple / Linux nothing else, and MS had their legal dept. destroy those who questioned it. Frankly I ma all for somebody, anybody whooping MS's Butt.

So hopefully what I have described makes a little more sense. If not look up AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile at their web-sites and you will see all of them offer these exact same deals. Have a great evening folks as I am trying to catch a flight.

The Release Date for the 3G I-Phone is set for June 15th according to word from AT&T sources.
Meizu it's now or never, September will be to late unless you can provide some massive improvements upon your design and abilities inside this phone.

Rumor is that Apple has reworked and reshaped this phone and included a bunch of new features. 39 days till I guess we find out.

I really want to give the Meizu a Try but at the $199 for the 8gb I-Phone 3G I will give it a run first I guess!

yeah if your interested in a contract phone, the iphone 2nd gen looks like it may be a great option if it is that price. I'm not interested in a contract as I don't have a steady enough income to afford it so the M8 or 1st gen iphone will really be the only options in their offline price range (if the M8 is delivered on time). I suspect the 3g iphone offline will cost a lot. People have been throwing around all sorts of alternatives like the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, but we won't be seeing this before earliest july (perhaps even as late as spetember) IMO, and off line it will be very expensive. Same goes for the HTC daimond which will drop in june but again cost a lot off line.

x1 will come in sept sere just like you said

@dontripmeoff i think there's a chance that there will never be a 8gb iphone
mark II

We'll see about that $199 price. If it would be $199, I would consider buying one.

250-350 ofline would be my choice but there's no chance of that happening

Damn apple fanboys.

For those of you defending the iphone. I was impressed by it when a classmate bought one, but when i got my M6SL the sound quality blew me away. Too bad my M6's USB port broke and i do not have the player anymore, but that's a different story. I'm waiting for the M8 now.

My classmate Paul gave me his iphone for a few days as he wants to sell it now and the software was bugged. I re-flashed it to the latest 1.1.4 firmware and unlocked it (they aren't officially available in Romania so jailbreaking/unlocking is the only option), and played with it a bit. So.

What's hot on the iphone:

- Touchscreen
- Ability to install a ton of apps when unlocked
- Accelerometer
- Design

What SUCKS on the iphone:

- Software bugs up at least once every 2 months, requiring a full reinstall, and you lose all apps and settings
- The speaker is a JOKE. I have a Nokia 6234 and i can hear it in the whole house. It's so loud i can't keep it near my head when it's at full volume. Whereas i could sleep nicely with an iphone at max volume right beside me.
- The sound quality is rubbish on phones as well. I plugged my DJ headphones into the iphone, and all EQ presets sounded distorted, and EQ off sounded like mono. And "Hey DJ, WHERE'S THE BASS?????" The M6SL blows it a mile away.
- It can't send MMS messages
- The camera can't do video without software hacks
- Bluetooth only works with other iphones
- No infrared

After playing around with it for a couple days, i found the iphone to be just a crappy PDA. Honestly, i expected a lot more from it, particularly in the sound quality. But noooo. This proves me again that apple are nothing more than marketing hype.

6233/6234 have the best mobile speakers imo, not counting chinese mobiles cause they are not so easy obtainable

Originally Posted by darkado

6233/6234 have the best mobile speakers imo, not counting chinese mobiles cause they are not so easy obtainable

I know.

The 6234 is a vodafone branded 6233 with slightly cheaper design. I had mine debranded and got rid of all the live crap, but it does get scratched easier than the 6233. Other than that, it keeps the title of the loudest phone ever, and the sound is clear too. My only gripe with it is that it sounds pretty bad on phones. Maybe it's the handsfree set which is of low quality, i'll hack my Sony earbuds on it and see if it sounds better.

But to make a more fair comparison, my old SE K310i easily beats the iphone speaker in both sound volume and quality.

That's my second post for this subject.

For thos who loose faith in meizu m8 :

I've explain why I'm so dissapointed wainting this M8 since 1 year now.
Some people are talking about release near this august .

But some new informations from other brand would definitively not buying the m8 .

Why?

let me explain :

1/ The first M8 is coming just with a better camera ( 3mpix ) and a better screen than the iphone , there is no dmb , no gps , no 3g on the m8.
2/ the iphone price for the 8gb will drop soon at 199 usd. And easy to unlock it. So why buying a m8 in that case.
3/ The iphone 3g will be release this summer , with including certainly the gps
4/ The HTC diamond will be released in june, with incredible spec : screen vga 640*480, gps, 3g, wi-fi, 3d touch flo, an accelerometers. etc... for a price about 500usd/euro. The only things that i think it's a disadvantage for the htc is a 2.8" screen.

I think next year Htc will release phone with dmb.

So with these other models , the meizu m8 become really not interresting, if we compare to an iphone first generation for 199usd (130euro) , the extra complete htc diamond.

So what can meizu bring us? Meizu must sell their m8 under 250 usd without contract to have some success. Or making a real complete m8 like they announce one year before with gps, dmb , etc...

I'm sorry but now with all these new informations, I will not buy the M8

Originally Posted by DAZKILL

That's my second post for this subject.

For thos who loose faith in meizu m8 :

I've explain why I'm so dissapointed wainting this M8 since 1 year now.
Some people are talking about release near this august .

But some new informations from other brand would definitively not buying the m8 .

Why?

let me explain :

1/ The first M8 is coming just with a better camera ( 3mpix ) and a better screen than the iphone , there is no dmb , no gps , no 3g on the m8.
2/ the iphone price for the 8gb will drop soon at 199 usd. And easy to unlock it. So why buying a m8 in that case.
3/ The iphone 3g will be release this summer , with including certainly the gps
4/ The HTC diamond will be released in june, with incredible spec : screen vga 640*480, gps, 3g, wi-fi, 3d touch flo, an accelerometers. etc... for a price about 500usd/euro. The only things that i think it's a disadvantage for the htc is a 2.8" screen.

I think next year Htc will release phone with dmb.

So with these other models , the meizu m8 become really not interresting, if we compare to an iphone first generation for 199usd (130euro) , the extra complete htc diamond.

So what can meizu bring us? Meizu must sell their m8 under 250 usd without contract to have some success. Or making a real complete m8 like they announce one year before with gps, dmb , etc...

I'm sorry but now with all these new informations, I will not buy the M8

I agree with this, if they had released in January or april it would have been a killer phone, but HTC has done it, theire diamond came out of nowhere and is definitvely the killer of the moment and the M8 will lack too many features face to the diamond. Myself am going for the diamond now whene it comes out in June.
Jack Wong has been making too many unkeped promisses and we still don't know whene it is coming out, we don't even know what the final GUI will be like.
I have been defending MEIZU face to my friends and any forum I saw saying shit about the M8 but I think I have reached the limit of waiting and hoping for nothing in the end.

Originally Posted by DAZKILL

That's my second post for this subject.

For thos who loose faith in meizu m8 :

I've explain why I'm so dissapointed wainting this M8 since 1 year now.
Some people are talking about release near this august .

But some new informations from other brand would definitively not buying the m8 .

Why?

let me explain :

1/ The first M8 is coming just with a better camera ( 3mpix ) and a better screen than the iphone , there is no dmb , no gps , no 3g on the m8.
2/ the iphone price for the 8gb will drop soon at 199 usd. And easy to unlock it. So why buying a m8 in that case.
3/ The iphone 3g will be release this summer , with including certainly the gps
4/ The HTC diamond will be released in june, with incredible spec : screen vga 640*480, gps, 3g, wi-fi, 3d touch flo, an accelerometers. etc... for a price about 500usd/euro. The only things that i think it's a disadvantage for the htc is a 2.8" screen.

I think next year Htc will release phone with dmb.

So with these other models , the meizu m8 become really not interresting, if we compare to an iphone first generation for 199usd (130euro) , the extra complete htc diamond.

So what can meizu bring us? Meizu must sell their m8 under 250 usd without contract to have some success. Or making a real complete m8 like they announce one year before with gps, dmb , etc...

I'm sorry but now with all these new informations, I will not buy the M8

I can see where you are coming from but I would have to disagree...

1/ Most people including myself would not need DMB as it is not a standard which is in the Uk/Europe or US. GPS is not IMO a necessity in a phone it is an extra which I wouldn't use anyway. 3G is nice but again I don't have the money to pay for a pricey data plan.

2/iphone for $199? the 8gb iphone may be $199 ONLINE. Offline it will probably still cost a similar price the 16gb M8.

3/ ok the iphone releases this summer and will have gps. So? I don't need gps and OFFLINE the 2nd Gen iphone will cost WAY more than the M8.

4/HTC touch diamond $500 US? I don't think so. As well as the fact it hasn't even got a US release date yet. Read this UK pre-order page >>

HTC Touch Diamond (PRE-ORDER) from Clove Technology

£464 = $903!!!!

so you want to pay an extra $470 for a phone with only 4gb nand flash, a 262,000 colour screen and no card slot? simply because it has GPS and 3G?

The M8 outspecs or is equal to the HTC on most other stuff (screen size, memory size, screen res, battery capacity, codec support etc).

As you can see it is not such a clear cut decision. The HTC may still prove to be a better phone if the M8 does not live up to expectation, but we will just have to wait and see.

The diamond is anounced in France in June for about 500€
We can say that the M8 outsepcs the diamond on certain things but are we sure that the M8 will be out any day?
The diamond is real and the specs are great. The M8 remains a dream.
We haven't seen anything about it besides a huge motherboard with no real features.

500 euro offline? even so that is still $772! which is over $300 more than a 16gb M8 for a phone with only 4Gb memory only 900mah battery and smaller 262,000 colour screen. It depends what you prioritise though. For me I am interested in the M8 for the main reason it was built....as a media playback device with great codec suport and good sound. If 3G and GPS are your main priorities the M8 is probably not for you. I agree though that the M8 is not real at the moment and only time will tell if it will be a good phone or not. If the M8 is not high quality and has many firmware problems I will probably be considering, the HTC Diamond, Sony Xperia X1 or the Iphone 2. However here in the Uk unless I get a contract all these phones will cost me a lot of money, which is one of the other key reasons I am hoping the M8 will be good. They also wil not offer all the M8's additional features that attracted me in the first place.

I agree with you Seres83, the thing is that we have been waiting, recieving hope then nothing. For what we have seen, I don"t believe the M8 will be released before end 2008 or begining 2009.
I have been waiting since 2006, I relly believed in it each anouncment, I even believed they would have an engineered device at CEBIT then nothing again.
And MEIZU has been silent for a moment, there is nothing to hang on to.
We can say wait and see but by the time, I think the M8 will only have it's price for itself (asuming that the price is kept wich I also begin to doubt)