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J.Wong's New comments In 13rd, Jan. -- go on waiting

This is a discussion on J.Wong's New comments In 13rd, Jan. -- go on waiting within the General Meizu M8 forums, part of the Meizu M8 category; quote: 以下是引用 J.Wong 在2008-1-13 22:56:00的发言: 魅族决定的路自然有她的道理,我们认为2年内单一功能的mp3/mp4将被类似m8/iphone这样的多媒体终端所整合/代替。 We have the standpoint of our own for Meizu's decision, 'cause the simple mp3/mp4 ...



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Old 01-14-2008   #1
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以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-13 22:56:00的发言:
魅族决定的路自然有她的道理,我们认为2年内单一功能的mp3/mp4将被类似m8/iphone这样的多媒体终端所整合/代替。
We have the standpoint of our own for Meizu's decision, 'cause the simple mp3/mp4 will be integreted and replaced by multiple-media terminater like M8/iPhone in the future 2 years.


类似m8/iphone多媒体手机将全面在年轻消费群体里普及,普及和大量生产后最终售价最低会低于1500元。
Multiple-media cellphone such as M8/iPhone will spread throughly among yound consumers and produced a lot, finally the price will be cheaper around 1500 RMB.

虽然mp3/mp4很便宜,但对于必须拥有这样手机的年轻人来说mp3/mp4再便宜也不必多花这个钱。
Mp3/mp4 are very cheap, but for these guys who are thinking mp3/mp4 as part of functions for their phone, they may not like to pay any single cent for the mp3/mp4 if they are even cheaper in addition.


作为IT或电子潮流消费产品制造商,我们的目光必须看得远一点。
我们失算的是m8的开发拖的时间比较长~m8上市前也许就是魅族的冬天
As a menufacturer of IT or consumable, we have to put our goal even further than today. We admitted that M8 has took lots of time than it is supposed to be~ and it is the right hard period 4 Meizu before M8 comes out.


我们需要的是你的支持鼓励而不是发危言和广告
最后谢谢支持我们的老用户们,以后我们一定提供更多更好的服务来回馈老用户,比如提供m3/m6折价换m8服务什么的
What we need is your support and encourage, but disappointing and advertising. We thank you, our customers the one who are supporting us, and we will provide more better services to you, such as you may change your m3/m6 to m8 in discount.


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以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-13 23:02:00的发言:

是哦,恢复了
yes, we've made it

m8播放mp3耗电情况,用6410 65钠米工艺后理论会在20mA以下,那么随便都上好几十小时播放时间
As for battery consumption of Mp3 playing for m8, it is about 20mA or even lower when 6410(chipset) is changed to 65nm in theoretic, and then it is just piece of cake for playing more than serveral 10 hours.


音质方面,m8使用独立音频DAC用料等都比m6好,音质自然不会比m6差
about music quality, M8 use stand alone audio DAC, that's better than m6, so the playing quality will be better than m6.


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以下是引用sxw962140在2008-1-13 23:09:00的发言:
J.Wong 大大
M8 的摄像头成像怎么样?我比较关心这个,平时相机都是不离身的。。。

how about the M8's camera? I'm concern of it, I use camera really frequently.

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-13 23:20:00的发言:

由于手机用的摄像头成像面积比较小,一般最大在1/3或1/4英寸左右,而相机所用的多在1/2英寸以上,成像面积加上机械光学校正等物理特性决定是无法改变手机成像和相机的差别的。
Well, the camera for mobile phone and imaging area are usually really small, it is about 1/3 or 1/4 inch, while 1/2 inch of common camera, so the imaging area and mechanical adjusting will not change anything on the imaging quality between mobile phone and common camera

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以下是引用hlonline在2008-1-13 23:14:00的发言:

那 你还是带相机吧 市面上没看道一款机器的成像质量能超过DC的 很简单摄像头的大小决定了 手机针眼大小的摄像头不可能有什么作为~手机的拍照就是方便,感觉在手机拍照方面加大投资有点浪费.... 比如MOTO的机器好想很少有超过200W像素 的机器,说明MOTO的主旨也是这样的
any way (m8) has the camera, right? I can't find any mobile phone whose imaging quality is better than DC, 'cause the size of camera decides that it is no use for mobile phone's camera~ Mobile phone photographing, you know, is just convenient but nothing else, so I think it is really bloody waste on mobile phone camera.... even the MOTO's phones are seldom equipped with camera more than 2mega pixs, so MOTO may think the same.

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-13 23:28:00的发言:
恩,还有不是看镜头的大小,主要是里面成像的cmos感光模块面积决定的,一般手机体积放不下相机所用的c mos模块尺寸
很多手机把镜头做的大大的仅仅是为外观考虑,并不能改变成像效果,也许随着科技的发展成像效果会越来越好, 但始终是比不上也越来越好的相机成像效果。
emm, that's true, it is the area of cmos sensitization module, not the size of area that makes the good quality for imaging.but bad luck, most of phone can not put DC's cmos for it's volume.
And many phones which have a big camera is just for making a better outside, that won't make imaging quality better. the imaging quality may better with the development of techniqu e, but may always worse than that of DC.


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以下是引用colgol在2008-1-13 23:41:00的发言:
就是啊老大
最关心的还是wifi有问题么?
透露一下啊
we really worry about wifi, can you tell us more about wifi?

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-13 23:46:00的发言:
恩,国内销售的m8将软件屏蔽wifi
M8 sold in China will hide the wifi function by software.

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以下是引用dragonwoo在2008-1-13 23:45:00的发言:
老大发个图上吧,到现在为止都是PS的,没见到真脸呢还?
Come on boy! show us more true picture, we are really tired of Photoshop arts, we need true machine\

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-13 23:47:00的发言:
真机图3月由魅族官方正式发布
Picture of true machine will publish officially in March of this year.

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以下是引用colgol在2008-1-13 23:59:00的发言:
国外版 应该和大陆 一起上市吧?
Is there any different between chinese version and oversea one?

以下是引用J.Wong在2008-1-14 0:07:00的发言:

硬件是一样的,软件就差wifi补丁的区别
Hardware is the same, as for software is wifi patch!

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So it seems we'll have to wait till next year, huh?
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why next year? it is this year
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i wonder why no one asked about the release date
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Why would they hide wifi with software if the hardware is still there? If chinese dislike it so much, why not ignore it, or have a settings toggle to turn it on and off if they're concerned about battery life.
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Why would they hide wifi with software if the hardware is still there? If chinese dislike it so much, why not ignore it, or have a settings toggle to turn it on and off if they're concerned about battery life.
i believe it has to do something with the government and the laws. but i might be wrong.
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I think this is encouraging- either the M8 is for real and it is happening (so long as no unforeseeable events strike) or Mr.J.Wong loves to study his technical manuals to come up with very believable lies :P
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So it will have wi-fi! That is good.
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March shall prove to be an important month...
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"and it is the right winnter 4 Meizu before M8 comes out."
what does this mean?
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Originally Posted by nice2know_u View Post
"and it is the right winnter 4 Meizu before M8 comes out."
what does this mean?
That's why i said we're gonna have to wait till next year. This line says it'll be coming after this winter, aka next year.
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oh god, please no!!! i'll have to buy something else before the M8 then
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He means that the time before the M8 is released is pretty hard for Meizu.

It's definitely not going to take another year...
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...类似m8/iphone这样...
...类似m8/iphone多媒...
Twice...not much doubt where Meizu's aspirations lie.
m8上市前也许就是魅族的冬天
My Chinese is really horrible, but I read that as before winter, not after.
国内销售的m8将软件屏蔽wifi
I wonder how long between official release and official hack?

Very interesting to read directly from the boss that Meizu's post-M8 future now rests with "convergent" devices.

J Wong is really evolving into a homegrown Steve Jobs, especially with this cult of personality developing via BBS.
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No need for hack in my opinion. They will be able to upgrade to the European software, so they will have wifi But that's just my guess.
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we will provide more better services to you, such as change your m3/m6 to m8 in discount.
that sounds really good !
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That's why i said we're gonna have to wait till next year. This line says it'll be coming after this winter, aka next year.
Humm, sorry to contradict you, but if he means "after this winter" then that means Spring, aka March 1 (for the Northern hemisphere).
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m8上市前也许就是魅族的冬天

"and it is the right winnter 4 Meizu before M8 comes out."
what does this mean?
Sorry guys, that's my fault for translation.
the chinese word 冬天 has two meanings, one is the season means winter, the other one is pretty hard or difficult time or period just as Error just said. And of cause, for these context, J.Wont know they have done nothing on new production except M6 sl during the last year ,and they suffered lots of doubt and irony, so it is really cold and hard period for Meizu before M8 released.
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For wifi, sure, it will be! Definately and absolutely!
But why a software patch to hide that for M8 for China? That because chinese have done lots of work for their own wireless standard wapi, which is even better than wifi, but for commercial and benefits reasons, WAPI was failed to become a world standard casued by IEEE. And then the chinese goverment want to spread WAPI standard within China, but stopped by the end of the negotiation with US. I don't know about the details, but it can be guessed out there is something unhappy happened. Finally, WAPI has never started in China, and WIFI was banned, too. Till now there is no wifi mobile electronic device is allowed to use in China. Nokia, MOTO and other huge manufacturers are all abide by this act.
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"M8 sold in China will hide the wifi function by software."

Maybe HSDPA is also hidden by the software?
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