The Alternative M8 Products topic

Originally Posted by kevkeisha

Hmm, ahh... The M8 doesn't exist. Everything thus far has been speculation. Yeah screensize is a problem, but the there isn't even a functioning M8 yet, thus no ...ah functioning screen. Eitherway, it's either the Diamond or the XPERIA X1 (both HTC products, and both about to be released within months of their announcement). Now that's compitance. Meizu could learn a thing or two.

It has been reported that the Xperia will not be out until september. The HTC Diamond is said to be released in the Uk June (no release date for the US yet) and offline and unlocked will probably cost twice as much as the 16gb M8 will if not more, as will the Xperia. Not to mention the fact The HTC diamond has no card slot and only has 4gb nand flash. To get an 8gb card for the Xperia will add even more to the price tag, and 16gb micro sd is not even available yet.

Fair point that the M8 does not actually exist yet but it definitely will be released because as Mr Wong has said Meizu have devoted almost all the resources of the company into making it. Do you think they would spend this much time and money on something and not release it? if they did they would go out of business.

Originally Posted by sere83

if they did they would go out of business.

no worries about Meizu going out of business. they are still a Ltd company. with all the media attention to it, if it runs out of money, there will definately be enough people support it through an IPO.

This specs on this phone is INSANE!
3.5-inch touchscreen
16GB Storage (Plus MicroSD Slot!)
5 Megapix cam
TV Out
GPS
VGA cam for video
Bluetooth 2.2

Not just iPhone killer. Just plain KILLER! (Follow link for article)
Samsung SGH-i900, iPhone Killer? - Specs, reviews and prices.

I don't understand why they keep the resolution of most smartphones so low...does it require too much CPU or something?

By the way, I updated the first post with all the devices we have come up with so far. Feel free to comment on them.

ithink low resolution helps with battery consumption, take n95 for example, the battery wouldn't last even that lousy one day it lasts with a higher res screen.

@DusL: Wong said that the high resolution was the reason for the performance problems they had. That's why they need to put in the 6410. Don't know how true that is though. But I think that it's quite possible that those effects at high resolutions need lots of CPU cycles.

guys, ive given up on m8...taking too long, im gonna get the HTC Diamond HTC - Touch Phone, PDA Phone, Smartphone, Mobile Computer

Me too, ive given up, im going for the HTC touch diamond too, or maybe the samsung f480, cool UI (but no wifi) but its out next month so definitely one of those two, meizu is falling behind fast, not released yet and phones are out now with better specs in the same range, at least if the m8 had a 5 megapixel camera it could compete but what can you do....

If you have the money to spend for an HTC Diamond, go ahead, it's your money.

Meizu is going to cost what like £250-£300, HTC touch diamond from eBay or wherever will be the same price so not really an issue, or will the m8 be much cheaper?.

Originally Posted by Umar23

Meizu is going to cost what like £250-£300, HTC touch diamond from eBay or wherever will be the same price so not really an issue, or will the m8 be much cheaper?.

It will be much cheaper: $276/$332/$415 for 4gb/8gb/16gb as the prices stand atm. That's about £140/£170/£210

But ofcourse it's up to you to decide which one you want.

the reason i was waiting for the meizu was because of its extensive features....far superior to iphones, i didn't really like the iphone much mostly because of the fact that it has very limited software, since meize was using windows, and looked good , i've been waiting for it for ages almost a year now!!!
but HTC also has those features and i love their touch 3d interface, screen is very nice and it processor is good, and it looks superb especially the back..

meizu shoudl ahve announced the phone 2 months before it was released, coz they announce dit so early there was alot of hype which then died down, to me it seems meizu live in a fantasy world..

HTC is really pushing the envelope with the Diamond and the XPERIA X1 where design is concerned (especially with the GUI). Also, short of the Meizu M8, the Samsung SGH-i900 has the most insane specs I've seen thus far (and unlike Meizu they'll actually deliver!). These three phones (along with 3G iPhone) will be the phones to beat. In my opinion HTC is the only company to step up to the plate and get one up on Apple. What's more is that they actually went in a totally different design direction from the iPhone. Meizu could learn something here. Instead of biting interface layout and disign from Apple, HTC TouchFLO 3D has it's own distinct flavor.

Originally Posted by kevkeisha

HTC is really pushing the envelope with the Diamond and the XPERIA X1 where design is concerned (especially with the GUI). Also, short of the Meizu M8, the Samsung SGH-i900 has the most insane specs I've seen thus far (and unlike Meizu they'll actually deliver!). These three phones (along with 3G iPhone) will be the phones to beat. In my opinion HTC is the only company to step up to the plate and get one up on Apple. What's more is that they actually went in a totally different design direction from the iPhone. Meizu could learn something here. Instead of biting interface layout and disign from Apple, HTC TouchFLO 3D has it's own distinct flavor.

I am the only one dissapointed in the HTC diamond? Great specs...but then the screen size/device size ratio is not so great. Even retaining traditional 4 buttons and 5-way directional pad of WinMobile devices, they could have done better than that and offer a larger screen...or a smaller device. Well, maybe not a smaller device: the battery is very small as it is and I am worried about battery life...so a smaller device would be an even smaller battery, except if they really mananged incredible power efficiency it would become unusable I guess
This (small screen, small battery) is annoying, but the phone is still great...except...4GB storage and no memory card slot??????? huh, what are they thinking???? This one simply killed the diamond for me: it is simply too small a storage for a multimedia phone/PDA...
The samsung is really nice....except for screen resolution, and xperia use sony memory stick which is more expensive than SD cards

they killed diamond with the battery, i see n95 frustration repeating all over again.

definitely agree about the Diamond. Everyone seems to be making a very big deal about this phone but on paper it is certainly not the meda orientated powerhouse that the M8 has the potential to be. A 2.8 inch screen is too small for watching video comfortably for any length of time above about a 1/2 hr IMO. Although it does have a nice VGA screen res I would not want to watch a film on it. Plus the aspect is not even close to 16:9 which again decreases the viewing area further for widescreen content.

In addition, with only 4gb of storage and no sd card slot you wont be storing much media on this device. It must also be remembered HTC are primarily a business orientated PDA manufacturer. Not too mention a low capacity battery, which I don't think will do you any favours when trying to surf the internet over 3G on a 640x480 res screen. Can't imagine the the web experience would compare favourably to the iphone either with only 2.8 inches of screen. Lets not forget also the high price this handset will command off line.

Also after looking at the videos of the interface It looks rather slow in comparison to the highly responsive instantanious way the iphone responds to touch input. HTC have incorporated some nice looking animated bars and icons but these also extend waiting times after you input a command. This becomes particularly noticable when viewing photos. It certainly isn't the smooth experience you get with the iphone. Nevertheless it does look nice all the same.

Once again though I feel people get blinded by the idea of having 3G and GPS and forget the fact that the M8 is a MEDIA ORIENTATED phone. Of course i'm speculating but on paper for multimedia, the M8 looks like it will be far superior.

Originally Posted by sere83

In addition, with only 4gb of storage and no sd card slot you wont be storing much media on this device. It must also be remembered HTC are primarily a business orientated PDA manufacturer. Not too mention a low capacity battery, which I don't think will do you any favours when trying to surf the internet over 3G on a 640x480 res screen. Can't imagine the the web experience would compare favourably to the iphone either with only 2.8 inches of screen. Lets not forget also the high price this handset will command off line.

Even for a business oriented device, I feel 4 Gb non-upgradable memory is not enough: I have a 4Gb SD card in my PDA right now, and do not use it for multimedia at all (a few dozen of mp3, maybe). It is already tight, just for tomtom maps, google maps, offline wikipedia, ebooks, applications and some documents (powerpoints, word).
No movie nor music library, and it is just enough.
On a device with a camera, it will clearly not be ebough (pictures use memory, and small movies even more). So for a device with 3G and a 3MPixel camera, 4GB is not enough imho, even if targeting the smartphone market and skipping the PMP market. It simply leads to an unbalanced device, I can not see how a user could avoid reaching memory limits very fast...except by constantly working online with no offline data. Maybe it is the point? Network providers may be happy about it, but I certainly am not...
For the battery...well, the battery life that has been published looks not so bad: A phone should allow 1 day of normal usage, 2-3 day of standby with a few short voice calls...on it's standard battery, even after 2 years of normal usage. That's a bare minimum imho, and it seems the Diamond can do it...However, the battery life has not been tested when using it as a smartphone: apps, net browsing, pictures, GPS...I may be pessimistic, but 900 mAh seems too low to get decent battery life when using the diamond as something else than a basic phone. Well, one can carry an extra battery, but I prefer this to be needed only in special circumstance (long plane, bus or train travels, or trekking/offroad trips away from a power plug).

the thing about diamond is that htc tried to merge looks and bussines and failed.

The thing is no matter what we all think , meizu have taken waay too long in delivering and they keep changing the interface and design even now when its supposed to be on the brink of release. If they were that fussed in making our wait worth while they would throw a 5 megapixel camera on it and make it compete wiith the samsung i900 and the other touchscreen 5 megapixel phones which are likely to be the new gen of smartphones. Anyone agree?.

i do, but i know for fact that camera is only interesting for a couple of days
and than it becomes a thing only for capturing those special moments