MiniOne article

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/technol...cbccdrcrd.html

Nice find, reading it right now.

I wonder where he got the M8 picture from.

What an arrogant author, writing about
"chinas cloners copying high tech western products".


Of course there are lots of 'cloners', but to say "Meizu cloned Apple's iPod Nano last year" is far from truth.

cool... going to read it now ±'
thanks!

high tech westren products chinese cloners copy? the chinese manafacture all the high tech western products!!! this guy's not gonna be laughing when china take over the bloody world in the next 10 years! people think the west is ready but they ain't!!

quote form the article:

'Neither the miniOne, the P168 nor even HTC's model are likely to carry the mystique or quality of the iPhone'

o dear I think this geezer needs to be sent an m6 or an m3 quick time

It was a well put together article. But the points made were unoriginal, and the article was typically sensationalist.

For instance, I don't think you can just say that M6 is a clone of the Nano. "Meizu cloned Apple's iPod Nano last year, establishing itself as a significant force in a music-player market far larger than Apple's"

An interesting article, this one. You can't call it wrong or call it right. In other matters, that P168 phone is pretty cool, got all the basic functions, but I certainly do NOT wish the Meizu MiniOne be something like that - the font is the ugliest on the planet...

So Jack Wong is pretty hard to reach hey... did Err0r ever meet him? :P

It's appalling how the international community ignores China's blatant piracy. Hell, even the companies who's products are being pirated do nothing. Hello Apple? I hope you feel good about suing fellow american companies while chinese companies are laughing their way to the bank.

I'm chinese ( one of the so called overseas ones) but I hate China. They should be taught a lesson.

Calm down aegisofrime. It's US' fault for starting production in China. What would you expect? If there was $100 on the ground and no one's around, no place to hand it to, what would you do? Leave it there? Doubt it.

I guess you are right iversonjack. Maybe the US should have kept their production at home. Still that doesn't mean what China is doing is right. What they are doing is stealing, and stealing on a massive scale at that. Would you like something that you have invented, something that you invested money and time and hard work into, to be copied by someone? I don't think so.

Ideas are copied all the time. I wouldn't want people to copy my ideas, but there isn't much that can be done about it.

Whilst you are right in many respects I would not consider Meizu as being guilty of so called cloning. They actually spend considerable sums of money in research and development of their products as well as adding functions that other better known brand names do not include. I wish I could find it for reference but I recall a statement made by J Wong on Meizu BBS that the M8 LCD alone had cost over a million dollars in development and he predicted that final R&D costs for the M8 would be more than what was paid for the new Meizu factory to be constructed.

I personally see no resemblance in the M6 (which is often labled a Nano clone) and iPod players. The M3 may be similar externally but then so are many other name brand players but that does not make every rectangular MP3 player with a coloured LCD an iPod clone. Even the term "iPod Clone" sounds like a marketing stratergy by Apple to me.

All products electronic devices especially have always been driven by supply and demand, as a manufacturer comes up with innovative new ideas for products other companies invariably redesign or adapt their products to meet these new demands by consumers. This is not a new stratagy it has been around since the invention of the wheel. If this weren't the case we would all be using telephones made by Alexander Bell, driving cars made by Henry Ford and flying planes built by the Wright Brothers (simplistic I know).

A few decades ago it was Japan that was building it's economy by mass producing products copied from the American market, as a result they now have the technological expertise to produce top quality electronics for global supply. Now China is growing it's economy using the same stratergy.

The way I see it, it is imitation of others innovation that keeps us learning, inventing and growing technologically.

Originally Posted by aegisofrime

It's appalling how the international community ignores China's blatant piracy. Hell, even the companies who's products are being pirated do nothing. Hello Apple? I hope you feel good about suing fellow american companies while chinese companies are laughing their way to the bank.

I'm chinese ( one of the so called overseas ones) but I hate China. They should be taught a lesson.

The reason apple isnt suing chinese companies is because its not legally possible. Outside our borders, is outside our judicial system. All apple can do is sit back and watch, this is also the reason why meizu's products arnt readily available in the US, because they fail to comply with US fcc rules and regulations (which is where the copies and clones would be filtered out in the US). I love meizu products, i'm not going to say that the miniOne is a clone of the iPhone, but meizu at least in some part got some form of inspiration from the iPhone, but me, i'm a windows geek, not a mac fan, which is why I want the miniOne.

a few major issues and the whole 'iclone' debate I feel are slightly misrepresented in this article. Personally I don't think the m8 is an iclone. An iclone implies inferior quality, a direct attempt to copy an other companies product and sub standard OEM software. Evidently the m8's styling is influenced by apple no doubt (still debatable however as meizus preliminary design could have actually appeared first). Meizu will be using an ARM processor very similar to that used in the iphone but faster, presumably manafactured in the same plant. Also they will be using samsung flash also used in the iphone. It also runs on windows ce 6.0 which no 'iclone' runs on unless it is an illegal hacked copy which meizu certainly won't be using. And in terms of quality is the build of an m6 or an m3 any worse than an ipod? i think not. Take a look at the cect clone, it is clearly cheap and uses terrible oem software and cheap materials, it even says iphone on it for christ sake! this is an obvious iclone. As mentioned before to be inspired buy another design is how things progess, it is like saying a zune is an ipod clone, it is clearly not as has different features just like meizu products. I think people are far too quick to label chinese company products as cheap and poorly made. while this maybe true in a large number of cases there are exceptions. Also this guy says HTC (south korean) pda's do not have the quality of an iphone, is he having a joke? htc is one of the biggest pda manafacturers in the world and sell units all over the world in europe, the us and asia and have been making phones for a far longer time than apple. Why don't these clowns do their research properly?

I see the m8 as economic evolution. meizu saw a product (the iphone) and realized it was a good idea. i think they thought the iphone was a good idea that could be improved upon. so they made the m8. apple may not like it but the m8 looks to be a better product all around. even that article said that the m8 will have some features that even the iphone won't have. also its gonna be a lot cheaper. i personally want to buy one because its cheaper, better, and doesn't use apple software. (i detest macs)
also meizu is filling up the opportunity left by apple. the article said that the iphone won't be availiable worldwide for at least a year. the m8 is supposed to be released sometime this fall. i have a feeling the m8 will fill those gaps before apple can get to them.

basically i hope the m8 beats out the iphone. i know i'm gonna buy one.

Exactly right hex42, Meizu outsmarted Apple by taking an already made product and making it better - what is classified as an invention in itself.