M6 SL battery and current drain/draw data

Hey folks,
i'm looking for the following technical data of the Meizu M6 SL:

#battery capacity
#current drain/draw in standby mode
#current drain/drwa in operating mode (mp3/radio/vid...)

to answer my questions:
-> how much charging rate need the meizu
-> how much is it able to handle with!

i know that Li-Ion or LiPo batteries are able to handle 1C or less fast charge current.

thanks in advance

ice

Hi. The Battery Capacity is around 36 hours for music, 5 hours for video. It has about a 3-4 hour charge time, and in standby, I have had mine on standby for a year and a half without charging, and it still shows full battery.

But it's not full battery. All rechargeables and alkalines alike will lose some charge.

Originally Posted by mbarry

I have had mine on standby for a year and a half without charging, and it still shows full battery.

Wow, what an amazing test!

Well yeah, maybe it lost 10mah of power.

you all don't know what i want! I want facts, no field report of your own experiences!
#capacity of the battery in mAh
#current drain/draw in standby mode in mA
#current drain/drwa in operating mode (mp3/radio/vid...) in mA

theoretic:
my usb charger has a charging rate of 1500mAh, is the M6 able to handle this high rate although the battery has a theoretic capacity of 1000mAh? because Li-Ion or LiPo batteries have to be charged with maximal 1C (1000mAh battery with a max of 1000mA charging rate

get it?

Yes, but mind being less arrogant so we actually would like to help you?

sorry for my harshness! but i know the facts that you told me, because i can call a meizu M6 SL my own.
My point is, there are thousand of USB charging adapter for yourwall socket. some of them have a output of 1000mA (1A). an usb-port of my notebook does have 500mA output (actual charging method). so it comes to my mind that 1000mA is maybe to much for the meizu battery (max charging rate for Li-Ion/LiPo batteries is 1C)!
some user here in germany have fear in using this kind of divice! so i need the mentioned facts to assure if you can use this device or not!
hope you understand!

No it isn't, the battery will take 400MA, no more. A power supply will only supply what is needed, not try to shove it into the battery.

Originally Posted by mbarry

the battery will take 400MA, no more

how is that possible? a battery can not define how much current it will take! the cahrger defines the current.
I'm in to modelbuilding of RC cars so i have a "Robbe Ultimate 2" charger for charging my batteries. i can chose the current. if i would chose to much (for example 5A current rate for a 1Ah battery), the battery will heat unnormal maybe it will catch fire!
Or does the meizu have a current limiter inside? I don't think so!

usb charging spec is here: USB.org - Approved Device Class Document Download
an inexpensive usb charger is available almost anywhere. I'm not sure where your going with this, to "condition" the battery? fast charge? i think* the cap on usb chargers is 5v 500 ma. it IS determined by the device, hence the spec.
if someone had the case open no doubt the voltage amperage of the battery is listed on the battery tag. current limiter, yes otherwise it would draw full available until it fried.
again usb chargers are cheap and charge very fast.
so, what is the plan here? i've also done the rc thing, carpet oval, fun stuff.

i don't get it!
usb ac-adapters (output:1000mA) charge faster than on usb-port (500mA) because the device determines the current rate? in my opinion the charging is faster because the ac-adapter has more power.
so if it's like you said, the charging time would be the same with USB-port and ac-adapter because there is a current limiter inside the meizu!

does anyone opened a M6 before?

Look here:
M6 dropped, won't switch on [FIXED]

and there:
http://www.meizume.com/miniplayer-m6....html#post1295

found this pics:
meizu Forums: dismantle testing about Miniplayer

but nothing is written on the battery!

i found this post: http://www.meizume.com/12-post1.html
there the battery capacity is mentioned with 700mAh. I asked the author for clearance too.

Here, lets look at a water analogy for electronics. Say your battery is a 20oz cup. The charger is a faucet, which has a 500 Gallon per hour flow rate. You are using a funnel to direct the water. No matter how fast the water is coming, the rate of water going into the cup will not change, because the hole on the bottom of the funnel can only let so much water through. Clear now?

yeah it was clear before, but i'm not sure if the meizu has that hole in the bottom (current limiter)!
Like i mentioned before:
the charging time differs with an AC-adapter instead of an USB-Port. so why is that if the hole in the bottom just let the same amount of water through?

The battery has a current limiter (among several other mechanisms) for safety. LiIon batteries can explode if mistreated so they're manufactured so you can't do anything too crazy.

Read the wiki:
Lithium-ion battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lithium ion batteries with a lithium iron phosphate cathode and graphite anode have a nominal open-circuit voltage of 3.6 V and a typical charging voltage of 4.2 V. The charging procedure is done at constant voltage with current limiting circuitry. This means charging with constant current until a voltage of 4.2 V is reached by the cell and continuing with a constant voltage applied until the current drops close to zero. Typically the charge is terminated at 7% of the initial charge current. In the past, lithium-ion batteries could not be fast-charged and typically needed at least two hours to fully charge. Current generation cells can be fully charged in 45 minutes or less; some Lithium-Ion variants can reach 90% in as little as 10 minutes.