Meizu is better than Apple?

It's kind of a mix for me. Being easy to use, having a lot of functions, and looking good are important factors but so is being different from the crowd, opposing the mainstream, and fighting conformity. In my own opinion, Apple doesn't deserve to be the mainstream because of reasons like proprietary software, predetermined obsolescence, and etc.

An iTunes update crashed my computer. Took three days to recover. Never updated iTunes since, and plus, look at all the unnecessary startup entries and services that iTunes installs... What the heck does Apple Bonjour have anything vaugly related to iTunes...

[QUOTE=Blackstar;67088]Well MacOSX and later are based on linux, whilst advanced, its not something that apple invented themselves

I too would have to agree that in general, apple mp3 players are tested more thoroughly before being released to the public. Their DAP OS's are mostly stable and don't suffer from many of the common bugs we see featured on some meizu devices. Although I do not have any problem with my M6, some people do.

When it comes to judging DAPs, an important concept to consider is price. Would you pay 200 dollars more for something that is near flawless? or would you settle paying less for a device that suits your needs with bugs that do not affect you? Simple questions like that and some research usually lead to the correct decision.

As with most devices you really do get what you pay for (well I think so anyways!).[/QUOTE

MAC OS X is based on UNIX ! linux is also based on UNIX! Apple made the whole GUI and the most of the code by themselves!

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Originally Posted by Blackstar

Well MacOSX and later are based on linux, whilst advanced, its not something that apple invented themselves

MAC OS X is based on UNIX ! linux is also based on UNIX! Apple made the whole GUI and the most of the code by themselves!

I guess you didn't read my previous post about Mac OS X not being based on Linux.

I hope that J. Wong will give us some useful info tomorrow.
I'm still hoping to get Android running on this thing. Otherwise I'm gonna get myself the OpenMoko GTA03.

I've heard lots of praise about Android. What's so good about it?

It's more open that WinMo or WinCE, it's very stable, supports a lot of different technologies like multitouch, provides the same functionality on different sort of devices. There are some drawbacks too. Google doesn't give the access to the core of the OS eventhough it's not permitted by the GPL (Android is based on Linux). They will have to do this someday so they don't break the license. The fact that devs can't access the kernel means that they can't use C/C++ to program Andoid based devices and therefore are limited to Java. The thing about Java used in this OS is that it doesn't follow the Java ME and Java SE specifications which means that you won't be able to run java apps from different cell phones on it.
The good thing is that Symbian is going open source too and with Nokia aquireing Trolltech (a company responsible for Qt libraries) this can give us another great platform for mobile devices. Competition was never a bad thing.

Doesn't Windows CE and Windows Mobile support multi-touch as well?

After you implemented it I guess. These guys are saying that Android has native support. I don't really think the stability is much of an issue, yet, because as operating systems get older, they become more stable. Think of how far we've come from Windows 3.1.

Originally Posted by JkPwNsTeR

I don't really think the stability is much of an issue, yet, because as operating systems get older, they become more stable. Think of how far we've come from Windows 3.1.

Windows 3.1 is a wrong example my friend, since current releases are not based on it since Windows 2000. But the theory is right and with FLOSS operating systems making things stable is even easier because everyone can send patches to the devs.
I forgot to mention OpenMoko which is another Linux based OS for mobile devices. It's completely open source and there is no proprietary code in it.

I meant how stable Windows 3.1 is compared to Windows XP or Vista.

Oh, I apologize .

Originally Posted by sere83

I have wanted to get an M3 for the gym for a very very long time but with that track skipping issue I won't buy one, it's just not acceptable to me.

I am thinking of getting one for exactly the same thing, I managed to lose my old but useful creative n200 with neat little armband think maybe stolen grr

Track skipping issue??? Please tell me someone this is fixed now? I realise the post I am replying to is over a year old but you never know :S

Also are these issues still current? :

Originally Posted by mbarry

firmware upgrade completely screws up my Meizu, so I have to DFU it

Originally Posted by mbarry

GUI is clunky and slow, loading a playlist on the Meizu takes about 5 Minutes, and the Video is often Off-Sync

Originally Posted by mbarry

Meizu can only really theme by changing the backround and some basic icons. With iPod Wizard, you can change Everything the menu layouts, what each menu contains, etc.

Also, can you change the battery? Or even buy a spare battery so if you play it at work or whatever during the day and go home and change for a friday night etc you can put the charged spare battery in rather than having to wait for it to charge or use a different player? I remember there was loads of nastiness from Apple making people pay ridiculous prices for replacement batteries for ipods

I'm afraid nothing has changed the last year. Meizu didn't release any new firmwares and the M6 are closer to be discounted from market. I don't see M3 out there any longer.
The stutter issue AFAIK is a hardware thing that hardly would be fixable by firmwares. I still wait on Rockbox to see if this will make any difference.
But I can refer some guidelines to prevent or reduce this behaviour.

· Scan and fix your MP3’s for errors and trash that could cause unstable playback. (tidymp3, MP3val)
· Remove unnecessary tags from your files like embed album art. M6 and M3 don’t support those.
· Recent idea: Make your files ID3V2.0 free. I haven’t tried this myself yet but could be one another working solution.
· Re-encode your music if the above don’t work for you. You could use another format that doesn’t stutter like APE, FLAC or OGG.

A last option would be grabbing M8 instead. It doesn’t have this behaviour from what I know but sound quality should be a slight downgrade but it offers you the replaceable battery. Nope M3 or M6 doesen't have that.

Originally Posted by deathkittengoesmew

Also are these issues still current?

GUI is clunky and slow, loading a playlist on the Meizu takes about 5 Minutes, and the Video is often Off-Sync

Yes those still current.

If you follow the guides correctly to upgrade your firmware you shouldn’t worry much about DFU. I rarely get my M6 screwed up that would need DFU tools.
Hope this help.