Meizu Vs Apple

was thinking about this today. Will meizu really be able to compete with apple in the overseas market if their growth continues? I mean as much as I will be hoping to buy an m8 and not an iphone the truth is in terms of ease of use, and aesthetics apples future dap and cell phone interfaces will be light years ahead of the m8, m6SE and m3SE. And if they are releasing the iphone now imagine what the next ipod's goung to be like! Don't get me wrong functionality is what counts for me and at the moment apple does not provide what I need plus I love the fact meizu is far smaller, more connected with it's users and gives the high end user what they need, plus the great community. I just don't see anyone company beating apple in the dap game. Not even microsoft

Meizu is not so popular as Apple. Well, 100 times less lol. Apple products are way to overated. Maybe in the future. Meizu M6SE is going to own. M3SE isn't going to get relased by now (maybe next year). That's good because it is ugly . MiniOne might be awesome, if it is going to have a good GUI like the iPhone. I like Meizu products way more than Apple products.

Yeah, I feel the same way. Apple is going to rule for quite a while - but that's okay. Just because they're the biggest in town doesn't ever mean that you'll have to buy from them, or that there won't be other companies releasing quality products. Their next iPod will be just as popular as the previous ones have been, but it'll also be just as expensive (or more!). I got a Meizu for it's functionality and value, it's just a better deal, I paid $99 for something that suits my needs better than a $$$ video iPod. Apple products have always had a premium price, therefore I suspect many people will be sticking with Meizu, or a competing company in the future.

I don't think meizu will ever compete with apple(as in popularity not products)

true...Meizu just isnt big enough to compete that way i think

I think one of the problems meizu needs to adress is small firmware glitches. When you are trying to market to simpleton ipod drones, glitches in the firmware make the product look far less polished and untrustworthy. While ipods do have problems with hardware, the GUI rarely fails and is does everything it says it is supposed to in a simple manner. Things such as video playback problems, album art issues, certain supposedly supported file playback issues...these will all effect meizus growth in the market and at the moment are common place on the m6 and m3. Obviously apple have far more resources to iron out such issues prior to their products going to market. I do howver like the fact meizu is an early adopter of relativly new formats and technologies eg. M8 running wince 6.0 and m6 and m3 supporting flac etc. Meizu does however need to become far more brand orrientated however if it is to suceed outside china. E.g providing high quality video encoding software (if needed), clear instruction manuals and updates etc in all languages, high quality simple website etc.

No way. Apple will always win, because regular blokes just don't care about the specs much - they want something that everyone can say "wow you've got an ipod!". There will not be a day when people will go "wow you've got a Meizu!".

not to mention racism, people tend to look down on chinese products.

I wouldnt necessarily call it racism, Chinese products are improving, but they are by no means at the level of certain other countries that produce very high quality products (such as germany etc). Getting there eventually though

Originally Posted by Blackstar

I wouldnt necessarily call it racism,

actually yea, it's more of prejudice...

Let's spread the word about Meizu. I'm freaking annoyed off the people that are like wow iPod. Meh. They think that it's the best MP3 player ever.

Apple really knows who to advertise. And not how to make good products.

Originally Posted by Blackstar

I wouldnt necessarily call it racism, Chinese products are improving, but they are by no means at the level of certain other countries that produce very high quality products (such as germany etc). Getting there eventually though

true..
on the other hand... all those good "non-chinese" products are produced in China anyway
Ipod are made in China too

Apple's products are over rated and over priced. I actually had an iPod nano and the only reason was that I wanted to see what the iPod, which everyone had, would feel like. Disappointed. So I did some research and bought a Meizu.

But it depends. I don't like iPod because it's tied with iTunes, while maybe many like iTunes.

Job i agree with your point. I do not agree that chinese made products are all rubbish , Its the effort and design and quality that other countrys ask for that puts the goods above the rest, Otherwise They just cut corners.

If you think about it this way...

A cheap chinese brand wants to make 10,000 players.
They have 2 choices
Low quality plastic 100 kilos = £100 (£1 per kilo)
Highy quality plastic 100 kilos = £200 (£2 per kilo)

Apple come along and wants to make 5,000,000 players
Low quality plastic 10,000 kilos = £5000 (50p per kilo)
Highy quality plastic 10,000 kilos = £6000 (60p per kilo)

Obviosuly apple will pay less for the highy quality plastic than the small company will , Resulting in apples income larger and forcing the smaller companies to buy the lower quality stuff (Also apple may but all the quality stuff out).
Due to the large number of wealthy people in apples market the amount apple sell the products goes up and the number they sell goes up. This is re-invested into the company and china does not benifit atall ,As all trade is done overseas and the company is based overseas.

Apple is horrific. I've bought the new second generation 1GB Shuffle when it first came out for 80 dollars. Complete rip off. The sound in starting to deteriorate, not to mention I really don't think it was worth 80 dollars. If I knew about Meizu at the time I probably would have bought one.

Well I am going to wait for the Meizu M8. It's everything I want and then some. Also Meizu seems to have a good rep of being high quality. ^_^

In this comparison we must keep mind and heart cold.
Apple company produce very well manufactured products, but it have very disgusting politics concerning copyrights. In general I can mention the following as the main issues of Apple:
. expensive prices, for the product itself and its accessories.
. lack of some features, that have to be get separately, as FM tuner or movie player.
. lots of restrictions related with copyrights, entwined with greedy politic of sell songs.
. mean attitude concerning integration with other machines.
. average sound quality.
As a important advantage is its solid firmware and its automatic updating trough iTunes.

Comparing iPod Nano with my Meizu Music Card.

Nano machine doesn't have a FM tuner, and organization of files within the device is cryptic, can only be properly managed by iTunes (and some other players) but direct access through Windows for instance is useful.
Nano sport some minor but nice extras: contacts, games, lots of languages, etc.
Display of photos is good, nothing impressive. Nano can't play movies.
Key playing of Nano is awesome, and access of artist, albums and songs is excellent. Also is excellent to access other functions.

Music Card look is awesome and feels excellent, it has a good FM tuner and sound quality is impressive, by far better that iPod Nano machine and lots of other devices I've tried. Have the lack of this extras of Nano, happily not so important for an audiophile.
Display of Music Card is awesome and can play movies, despite is small size screen.
Key playing is very good, but firmware is still in development so access of artist albums and songs is tricky.
Customer support not being bad, can't be compared with what Apple can give.

In this aspect, we are comparing companies with a enormous difference: a multimillionaire company of USA against an emergent company of China. Apple firmware was made by an external company devoted to that activities probably their support is given by them, Apple was capable of pay for that. Meizu probably is using some small department to handle that task.

Anyway, Meizu has become the best company of MPx of China (Teclast is a good company too), getting some international recognition, that surely will grow if they continue producing good products and enforcing the points that are weak as it is firmware support

For Meizu, MiniOne M8, could be the starting point of a final international recognition because iPhone is becoming the wonder of the year, only stopped by its price. That is where Meizu have to gain its space, producing a good product well supported at a lower price.

I sincerely hope that tis happens as I just can't pay Apple for the dream machine that is a MP4 with cell phone.

I had a Nano, and now its collecting dust. Apple just can't match up with the features of the M6, and on price its not even close.

The only thing I would say Apple has on my M6 is podcast support. I hate manual updating.

I'm confident that with firmware updates the M6 will only get better

Originally Posted by iversonjack

No way. Apple will always win, because regular blokes just don't care about the specs much - they want something that everyone can say "wow you've got an ipod!". There will not be a day when people will go "wow you've got a Meizu!".

do people actually say that? i think most people wouldn't even notice an ipd except if a new ipod came out and they hadnt seen it yet
BUT
if i bought an M3 or M6 I'm sure most people wouldnt know of it and would be 'wow' cool and cheaper too!!!

i do think you are right that Apple will stay more popular but nobody worth wanting to like you, will like you because of an mp3 player anyways so it really isnt important for that

Originally Posted by iversonjack

No way. Apple will always win, because regular blokes just don't care about the specs much - they want something that everyone can say "wow you've got an ipod!". There will not be a day when people will go "wow you've got a Meizu!".

You're right. These days ppl say "Meizu? What's that?!"
I have the M3 and got the M6 for my wife (8gb each) and I'm so happy with them both. :D

I hate to say it but unfortunatly i'm starting to think meizu does not deliver what they promise and the price reflects that. The well documented track skipping issue and missing endings on high bitrate (160kbps and above) files with no silence at the end (eg. mixes etc) is for me inexcusable. Although I would never buy an ipod, such as issue would never happen on an ipod. It has nothing to do with budget either, this is plain carelesness, poor testing or bad coding. I'm still looking to invest in an m8 as hopefully windows ce will provide a more stable base for the OS but unless meizu iron out this fault in particular i don' think i'll be buying another one of their products.