stuttering music

I did ask him again that it isn't our songs who cause the problem, but he is still sure that is the mp3 itself with imperfections or extreme encoding.

"Hi TheTorminator!.
As I mention in my last answer. The stuttering MP3 itself has imperfections or extreme encoding. One of the decoder will miss the imperfections or extrme encoding and start with the coming perfect encoding. So you won't hear the stuttering. But M6's decoder is the second one. When face this encoding, it will manage them. Mostly it will failed to manage them. So you will hear the stuttering."

What do you think about it everyone? Is that really true?

I know the case about the Philips audio decoder, if so I can’t see any other way that you might have right DaremoS in that with the Philips audio decoder. It's a hardware malfunction, right?
So there is not really nothing to do than reconvert our music and no possible coming fix by firmware upgrade?

Yea yesterday I had that problem for the first time, on one specific song that is. Just cant play it, stutters real fast.

Originally Posted by The Torminator

I did ask him again that it isn't our songs who cause the problem, but he is still sure that is the mp3 itself with imperfections or extreme encoding.

"Hi TheTorminator!.
As I mention in my last answer. The stuttering MP3 itself has imperfections or extreme encoding. One of the decoder will miss the imperfections or extrme encoding and start with the coming perfect encoding. So you won't hear the stuttering. But M6's decoder is the second one. When face this encoding, it will manage them. Mostly it will failed to manage them. So you will hear the stuttering."

What do you think about it everyone? Is that really true?

I know the case about the Philips audio decoder, if so I can’t see any other way that you might have right DaremoS in that with the Philips audio decoder. It's a hardware malfunction, right?
So there is not really nothing to do than reconvert our music and no possible coming fix by firmware upgrade?

The least I can say is that the person your are talking with is sincere about this issue of the Philips decoder in MP3 files with some troubles. And... unfortunately... yes to the second question. So I've converted my valuable MP3 with failures (for my M3) is to convert them to OGG and play them in my Meizu device.

I would like to know what experience have had a user of M6SL I know from other forums (here)... trying to fix his stuttering Mp3 by re-tagging or using one of those programs stuttering fixer that I've read (not recoding it of course). As we know M6SL has a Wolfson audio decoder.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

I would like to know what experience have had a user of M6SL I know from other forums (here)... trying to fix his stuttering Mp3 by re-tagging or using one of those programs stuttering fixer that I've read (not recoding it of course). As we know M6SL has a Wolfson audio decoder.

Interesting, there are several SL owners around here who complain about the stutter issue too, but why should this happen on this decoder too? It’s still a bit weird that the problem should be placed inside our songs. Just simply because other devices play them nicely.
I will now then try asking about this decoder.
I hope too that something like Rockbox (when it get released) can tell us a little if this really is a hardware or a software issue.

Originally Posted by The Torminator

... It’s still a bit weird that the problem should be placed inside our songs. Just simply because other devices play them nicely.
I will now then try asking about this decoder.
...

I'll repeat myself in a previous post, but is also what the Meizu person confirm in his answer in the paragraph that started Firstly, the decoder has two ways to decode...
A PC decoder is capable to manage and compensate minor errors in MP3 encoded (some old encoders or small failures), also is capable to manage extra information added in tags. Most DAP decoders of other brand are capable to do this too... only Meizu CPU chip SA58700X07 in combination with Philips audio decoder UDA1380TT isn't capable to manage some of this failures and send them as stutters.
I think that this combination have some problem in design.

ask him how's the album cover connected with bad encoding and imperfections.

Originally Posted by zbyszkoo

ask him how's the album cover connected with bad encoding and imperfections.

he said: One of the decoder will miss the imperfections or extrme encoding (sic)... extreme encoding probably is a big picture used as embedded cover art. For instance a pic of over 600x600.

Anyway it's a good question

Well I can ask him again about that but he is not much for reply.

Hi guys. Just wondering why no one commented on:

"thank you for all Meizu fans!!! our new product mini one mobil phone will be released on September. Hope you will be interested in it. Have a nice day!"

Isn't that kinda big news?

maybe not.

Originally Posted by <=~Rex.llvleizu~=>

Hi guys. Just wondering why no one commented on:

"thank you for all Meizu fans!!! our new product mini one mobil phone will be released on September. Hope you will be interested in it. Have a nice day!"

Isn't that kinda big news?

Might it was but not anymore. At that time I've posted that it was maybe big news but now we have see that Meizu haven't got their Mobile Phone Sales License yet so we going to wait until October or longer before we see it.

Finally some reply on your questions:
Happy reading...

Originally Posted by DaremoS

The least I can say is that the person your are talking with is sincere about this issue of the Philips decoder in MP3 files with some troubles. And... unfortunately... yes to the second question. So I've converted my valuable MP3 with failures (for my M3) is to convert them to OGG and play them in my Meizu device.

I would like to know what experience have had a user of M6SL I know from other forums (here)... trying to fix his stuttering Mp3 by re-tagging or using one of those programs stuttering fixer that I've read (not recoding it of course). As we know M6SL has a Wolfson audio decoder.

"Current SL and M6SP has the same Wolfson audio decoder. But they also face this problem. Since the whole R&D is hard working in mini one, in my opinion you'd better convert the stuttering MP3 songs to MP3 format again to solve this problem."

Originally Posted by zbyszkoo

ask him how's the album cover connected with bad encoding and imperfections.

"Our engineer said, the album art inside the tags sometimes are relevant to the encording. That's why this kind of MP3 will stutter.
In order to explain it easily, I search some information about the tag of MP3 in the internet.
The result is: the ID3tag hasn't got any standard with ISO, so there is no rules to stipulate all the players or encoding program must support it.
The following information are excerpt from the website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3
If you are interested in it, you'd better read the whole text.

ID3 is a metadata container most often used in conjunction with the MP3audio file format. It allows information such as the title, artist, album, track number, or other information about the file to be stored in the file itself.

ID3v2 tags are of variable size, and usually occur at the start of the file, to aid streaming media. They consist of a number of frames, each of which contains a piece of metadata. For example, the TIT2 frame contains the title, and the WOAR frame contains the URL of the artist's website. Frames can be up to 16MB in length, while total tag size is limited to 256MB. The internationalization problem was solved by allowing the encoding of strings not only with ISO-8859-1, but also with UTF-16. Textual frames are marked with an encoding bit, though mojibake is still common when using local encoding instead of UTF-16."

Originally Posted by The Torminator

Finally some reply on your questions:
Happy reading...

...

I simply have to say thanks to The Torminator for all his efforts contacting people of Meizu...

The problem don't seems to be solved but at least in the forum we have made all that is possible to understand this issue.

No problem ^^
I have just decided not to use much more time on this issue.
It seems they all work very hard on finishing our long awaiting M8 so they don't have much time besides working on cases like this. I understand - they must be very busy. Hope they do some good work.
I think its too worth waiting on Rockbox and see what that brings up.
Before I go home I just want to ask if Is there STILL something else you or somebody want to know/ask Meizu about this problem?
Then I will take care of it now if necessary and I will ask for it.

No? (Just need to be sure)

that a company aiming to attack the iPod is not able to solve a problem like this via firmware.
I do not want to process ALL my podcast downloads (the problem NEVER occurs when I convert my own CDs) before transferring them to the M6. If I had known this before I would never have bought this player - it's far too expensive to accept a failure like this

Oh My God, Finally I had to say something about it!!!.

Meizu PLs!, companies smaller than you doesn't has this problem and even more, smaller and cheaper Mp3 Player also has gap less function on it.

How can be possible that we can't listen to New gap less album without feeling the blade that cuts our ears, Pls I think it would take a week or two for solving this issue.

As I was watching, I seems to be, the M6 lost synchronization(or something like that) with the song and the position of the progress bar and that's why I think the songs repeat the end or the last until the progress bar arrive to the end.

Meizu's development Dept. is a shame!!!!!!