Song Sorting

Hello,

I just got an M6 today, and am pretty pleased with it thus far. I've upgraded to the latest firmware.

Anyway, I uploaded some of my library to the M6. I've noticed that while browsing albums, the songs are not ordered correctly--they are ordered lexicographically by the song title, while they should be ordered according to track number. The songs are tagged correctly, and the M6 does extract the tag information.

I've noticed this is only the case for my ogg albums--the albums encoded with mp3 are sorted by track properly.

Has anyone encountered this? If so, does anyone know how to remedy this?

Thank you,
Mike

Hi, Welcome to MeizuMe, and congratulations on your first M6 purchase. To answer your question, there should be a sort menu when you go into the Music menu. You should be able to sort by Track, Filename, Artist and Album. I hope this solves your problem.

Hi!

Thanks for the reply. I looked in the "Song Order" menu, I don't have the "track" option. Rather, the options I see are: title, filename, artist, album.

I have installed the latest firmware (2.004.3). I have also tried selecting the filename ordering, which should work for my files since I prefix them with the track number ("01 - Question.ogg", for example). However, the songs are still sorted by song title.

I figure that I must be doing something wrong, since I haven't read anyone else having the same kind of problem . Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike

Although I do not use .ogg format I noticed in another forum that Cowon D2 users have the same problem and overcome it by numbering the track titles (01 Speak To Me, 02 Breathin, 03 On The Run....) within the tags.

there are 2 ways to solve this :
- sort by "Album" : songs get sorted by the id3 tag "Track Number"
- sort by "Filename" : use the track number in the filename (this is standard for a lot of people anyway)
I am using only ogg vorbis since I found out that it sounds better than mp3, and there is also no end of song stuttering with oggs on the M6.

what if you open the album in the Browser menu? numbering should be fine then i think. i use it that way, and i have no problems.

Originally Posted by nice2know_u

what if you open the album in the Browser menu? numbering should be fine then i think. i use it that way, and i have no problems.

The ordering is fine in the browser menu. However, I'd still much rather browse my music in the "normal" fashion.

Originally Posted by mhamlin

The ordering is fine in the browser menu. However, I'd still much rather browse my music in the "normal" fashion.

This issue of song ordered alphabetically within albums is another problem that Meizu simply ignore... as it is other that you will realize soon .

This is related with a deficient managing of ID3 by Meizu software.

Meizu owners that wants to use Menu options have to do a couple of works when an album is added to the player in order to make it play and look nicely.

1. To add #track in name field of tag. Then if song #7 is "Hotel California" it becomes "07 Hotel California" in tag fields, keeping 0 in front to not be confused with songs above 10.

2. To extract cover art and put it in album folder or a special folder named \ALBUMS. There are lots of topics here discussing this point.

For long time here and also in Chinese BBS this topic have been discussed with no reaction by Meizu.

Originally Posted by DaremoS

This issue of song ordered alphabetically within albums is another problem that Meizu simply ignore... as it is other that you will realize soon .

Well, that's a bit disappointing. I'm pretty happy with the player thus far, aside from this issue. Hopefully Meizu will fix this issue sometime, or some RockBox firmware will emerge for the M6. Well, thanks for all the replies, everyone!

Cheers,
Mike

Originally Posted by mhamlin

Well, that's a bit disappointing. I'm pretty happy with the player thus far, aside from this issue. Hopefully Meizu will fix this issue sometime, or some RockBox firmware will emerge for the M6. Well, thanks for all the replies, everyone!

Cheers,
Mike

Not so fast!!!! :D

In last firmware released yesterday this problem seems to have been fixed... apply it and check it

Originally Posted by DaremoS

Not so fast!!!! :D

In last firmware released yesterday this problem seems to have been fixed... apply it and check it

Hmm, I assume you're talking about the 2.004.3 firmware? Unfortunately, I get the same problem. I'm glad if it's working for other people, at least.

I'd like to add to the chorus that I find the M6's handling of the ID3 tags & track order very annoying. I've got probably 200GB of music and the idea of retagging either my whole catalog or selectively retagging because the tagging isn't implemented correctly is nothing short of infuriating.

Meizu: want to start a word-of-mouth revolution? Start fixing the basics on the M6.

Boy am I glad that I can tell Amarok to rename songs, create directories, etc, when putting them on my miniplayer. No fuss at all.

I have no problem at all.

The newest version firmware is 2004.6.

I found an other way to always get the correct song order.
I automatically generate playlists when I update the music on my Meizu.
This will only work when your mp3 files have correct formatting (filename starts with track number).


VBSCript code:
(put it in your root dir and run it after copying media)
(this is what I use, if you have other requirements, change it!)

Code:

Const ForReading = 1 
Const ForWriting = 2 
Const ForAppending = 8 
Const TristateUseDefault = -2 
Const TristateTrue = -1 
Const TristateFalse = 0 

Const PlaylistFolder = "PLAYLISTS"
Const MusicFolder = "MUSIC"
Const UTFFullPath = "#[UTF8FULLPATH]"
Const FileTypeM3u = "m3u"

Dim oShell, oSysEnv, oFileSys, oFile, oStream, oNetwork, oArgs
Dim sCurrentPath, oMusicFolder, oPlaylistFolder, oCurrentFolder, bNoFiles

Dim FileFilter(6)
FileFilter(1) = "mp3"
FileFilter(2) = "mpc"
FileFilter(3) = "ape"
FileFilter(4) = "flac"
FileFilter(5) = "ogg"
FileFilter(6) = "m4a"

Set oShell         = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
Set oFileSys     = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set oNetwork     = CreateObject("WScript.Network")
Set oSysEnv     = oShell.Environment("PROCESS")

'Build paths
sCurrentPath = CStr(oShell.CurrentDirectory)
Set oMusicFolder = oFileSys.Getfolder(sCurrentPath & MusicFolder)
Set oPlaylistFolder = oFileSys.Getfolder(sCurrentPath & PlaylistFolder)

'Delete all existing playlists
For Each oFile in oPlaylistFolder.Files
    If LCase(oFileSys.GetExtensionName(oFile.Path)) = FileTypeM3u Then oFile.Delete
Next

'Loop all folders in music directory
For Each oFolder In oMusicFolder.SubFolders
    CreateM3U(oFolder.Name)
Next


Sub CreateM3U (sName)
    bNoFiles = True
    Set oCurrentFolder = oFileSys.GetFolder(oMusicFolder.Path & "\" & sName)
    oPlaylistFolder.CreateTextFile(sName & ".m3u")
    Set oTextFile = oFileSys.GetFile(oPlaylistFolder.Path & "\" & sName & ".m3u") 
    Set oStream = oTextFile.OpenAsTextStream(ForAppending, TristateUseDefault)   
    
    For Each oFile In oCurrentFolder.Files
        For i=1 To UBound(FileFilter) 
            If LCase(oFileSys.GetExtensionName(oFile.Path)) = FileFilter(i) Then 
                oStream.WriteLine(UTFFullPath & "\" & oMusicFolder.Name & "\" & sName & "\" & oFile.Name)
                oStream.WriteLine("\" & oMusicFolder.Name & "\" & sName & "\" & oFile.Name)
                bNoFiles = False
            End If
        Next
    Next
    
    oStream.Close
    If bNoFiles Then oTextFile.Delete
End Sub

Originally Posted by mhamlin

Hello,

I just got an M6 today, and am pretty pleased with it thus far. I've upgraded to the latest firmware.

Anyway, I uploaded some of my library to the M6. I've noticed that while browsing albums, the songs are not ordered correctly--they are ordered lexicographically by the song title, while they should be ordered according to track number. The songs are tagged correctly, and the M6 does extract the tag information.

I've noticed this is only the case for my ogg albums--the albums encoded with mp3 are sorted by track properly.

Has anyone encountered this? If so, does anyone know how to remedy this?

Thank you,
Mike

This has been an ongoing problem with the M6 for formats other than mp3. I use WMA on my 8gb M6 and have this problem on some(not all albums). Its another glitch that Meizu has ignored, making their player another wannabe Ipod. As you are probably experiencing, when you first get your M6 you thnk it blows the Ipod away(Better hardware design, better playback, etc) but once you dig deeper you will see that it lacks where every other Chinese player lacks in, software interface/design, and firmware improvements making it just average. Meizu does update firmware, but they instead choose to add nonessential features(lyric support - come on) rather than addressing the inherent bugs in basic mp3 player playback functionality
stuttering, album art, playback ordering) . I still use my M6 with all its shortcomings occassionally, but would never buy another - My son's Creative Zen blows it away in interface, etc.

Our only hope at this point is Rockbox to make it the player it could be.

I am having the same issues with all of my ogg music... its too unfortunate... everything else about it is amazing, but this is just so bad... I am listening to the bible (over 1000 tracks, which only takes about 1 gig with OGG) and it mixes them all up... sad day

Hi There

I have my music in format of ape(one large file whole album) and cue(indexes in text format), how do i sort by track number?

Hey,

I am a brand new M6 SL user, just got it this week in the mainland China. (My old creative zen's headphone input must have worn out, made listening almost impossible. otherwise, only good words about it.)


so, the first thing to figure out was video encoding, which after getting BatMan was solved. the video encoder with the Cd did not work on my Vista.

The other thing as you well know is the wrong song order (btw,not always alphabetical) which appeared in some but not all album folders.

With some trial and error routines I found out the cause and the solution!

The cause is ID3v2 tag's tracking format. If the track numbers are e.g. 2/9 or 0088, then it screws up the song order. To solve this you need either to delete v2 tag (assuming you have v1 tags) or renumber the songs to e.g. 2 or 88. I downloaded Mp3tag - it does auto numbering for any amount of files. Just make sure the track number is a plain number, and it should work. Extra effort though..