M6 SP\TP 2.004.3 Official Release

Can anyone tell me if this new firmware is worth updating to (since stuttering is still an issue)?

Originally Posted by kagome342

Can anyone tell me if this new firmware is worth updating to (since stuttering is still an issue)?

how about reading the posts in this thread? thanks.

Originally Posted by mfb

Trying to attack people? The M6 has serious issues, of which the must irritating are on the video level for me. Some problems are however highly exaggerated. ........ The best thing to do, instead of complaining about it: open a topic, discuss the problem, come to a conclusion and a possible solution.

Ok mfb,
First - who want's to be a shrinking violet?
Second - About finding ourselves solutions for problems which are made originaly in the lab of the device i have a diffrent view.

I' m not a beta tester and I didn't pay for endless testing and waiting for next fw.

May be people who posting for more when 9 month around the same problem and didn't find a proper solution like to communicate over forums. But in this case it will never solve a wrong running clock on a M6 or the hyper sensitivity against files which are not encoded in a very special way.

Third - Yes, if a certain behaviour of customers let's a company room for ignoring whats going on it may be the right time to use clear formulations and open language - some want to understand this as a attack

I hope that the intelligent people will understand the real intent of my posts.
May be some day you can participate from this too.

M6
8GB

I' m not a beta tester and I didn't pay for endless testing and waiting for next fw.

To be honest I like that. I like playing with different software and hardware everyday. To me it's fun.

Stuff like iPod would be working same old since I bought it and I'd be bored with it very quick. Meizu gives me satisfaction, of modifing things, adding new features with latest firmware. But that's me. I do get what you expect from M6 but I guess it isn't for you. You want to use it and that's it. Maybe you should've gotten some other player?..

[quote]

Originally Posted by UltraBright

Ok mfb,
First - who want's to be a shrinking violet?
Second - About finding ourselves solutions for problems which are made originaly in the lab of the device i have a diffrent view.

I' m not a beta tester and I didn't pay for endless testing and waiting for next fw.

If you have problems then simply list them as others simply list their experiences etc.

Nobody indicated that you were simply a typical moaner that cannot understand simple solutions or that you expect too much for what you paid for.

No.. I do not call people names so why should you!

Get things into perspective, you have one of the best MP3 Players available for a price not much greater than the cheap ChiPods you get on eBay.

I would hate to work in the garage where you have your car serviced!!

Like Stranded, I also like the sum total of what the Meizu M6 has to offer.

I do like the meizu too - but the stuttering issue is a big one, and needs to be solved by meizu, not by us. When I'm showing off the sound of the meizu to my friends, I can tell them that to have decent sound they need to either use CBR ogg encoding, or else be ready for some stuttering at the end of the tracks!

Originally Posted by BobbyQ

c'mon guys, do I really need to list the obvious unsolved problems again ? This has been discussed so many times.
- video goes out of sync after a couple of minutes, no matter what converter you are using. This is a firmware issue and nothing else. The offset resets as soon as you press FF or RW for a moment.
- file limits (128 per artist and the global file limit)
- empty sub folder problem

and the video quality is all but great. 20 fps is 5 fps less than standard, and even the 20 fps smear and tear in high action scenes.
This does not mean that I don't like my M6. But I can't believe that they care for stuff that nobody needs like menu return or large selection font while there are so many unsolved issues - which were reported for months without any kind of feedback from Meizu. They ignore their customers, that's what I conclude.

Good luck with that. The fact that your concerns address core functuality, almost guarantees that it will be the last thing to be remedied. Perhaps you could present some suggestions about adding a colourful screen saver, a new game, or maybe a half implementation of a guitar tuner. You'll probably get more joy.

- I'm Speechless

Originally Posted by UltraBright

Ok mfb,
First - who want's to be a shrinking violet?
Second - About finding ourselves solutions for problems which are made originaly in the lab of the device i have a diffrent view.

I' m not a beta tester and I didn't pay for endless testing and waiting for next fw.

I agree with Stranded on this one, you bought the wrong device. What did you expect from Meizu when you bought it? I certainly didn't expect a perfect device, and would still buy an M6 with the experience I now have.

May be people who posting for more when 9 month around the same problem and didn't find a proper solution like to communicate over forums. But in this case it will never solve a wrong running clock on a M6 or the hyper sensitivity against files which are not encoded in a very special way.

The wrong running clock is a small issue yes, but it's not a show-stopper. Hyper sensitivity against files which are not encoded in a very special way? Okay, that IS a mouth full..... I download the shit out of my connection and only experienced the problem with 1 file.... And I don't do anything special with my rips: Pop in the CD, what would you like to do? => rip to Ogg Vorbis or MP3, done. You are exaggerating the problem here.

Furthermore: I think your problem is caused by the unstable USB-connection that the Meizu sometimes has. (You can notice it by a slightly flickering screen when connected to USB) When this occurs, almost everything you transfer to the device will be corrupted. Try jacking the cable in on a more stable manner, and try not to touch the cable on the small-end. (I had a lot of problems with this one)

Concerning:

Third - Yes, if a certain behaviour of customers let's a company room for ignoring whats going on it may be the right time to use clear formulations and open language - some want to understand this as a attack

I hope that the intelligent people will understand the real intent of my posts.
May be some day you can participate from this too.

And:

Second - About finding ourselves solutions for problems which are made originaly in the lab of the device i have a diffrent view.

Offcourse Meizu let us down in firmware development. But should we just sit back and complain? You do know that complaining on this forum will not result in the right action towards Meizu, right? Try on their Chinese forums, this is a fan-site. We must make the best of it together and find solutions ourselves, when the company doesn't give a good enough support. I for example am currently trying to solve the M6's problem with video's.

This topic is getting quite offtopic, I would recommend that a mod splits this off if we want to discuss this further.

lol Speechless. You made my day begin with a smile :-D

@mfb : I maintain that there is no connection between the firmware bug I am describing and the parameters of the video codec used ! If you have found some magic formula to prevent the bug I am talking of - be so kind and explain the details what is going on and why. You said you don't have the problem at all - ever ? Okay, then we may indeed have different hardware versions - which would be a very new information I have never read on this forum before, and I would like to discuss about it in depth.

Originally Posted by BobbyQ

@mfb : I maintain that there is no connection between the firmware bug I am describing and the parameters of the video codec used ! If you have found some magic formula to prevent the bug I am talking of - be so kind and explain the details what is going on and why. You said you don't have the problem at all - ever ? Okay, then we may indeed have different hardware versions - which would be a very new information I have never read on this forum before, and I would like to discuss about it in depth.

Okay, now this really needs to be split. :P

BobbyQ:
I don't believe that there are really different hardware versions, at least not to the extent where performance of the device suddenly increases. Most in the M6 is done in software, and I don't see a reason why they would suddenly increase the clock.

I'm not quite sure why these delays occur with you, does this also occur at low bitrates for you? One possibility could perhaps be, that miniature unnoticable hick-ups in the video decoding occur, which increase the delay slightly every time. (Seeing as a big amount of stuttering results in seconds of delay in a small amount of time) But I can't be sure about that right now.

If that really is the cause, then I might be able to correct or at least greatly reduce the problem by lowering the memory and complexity verifiers in Xvid. Whichever causes the problem: my guess is the memory seeing what my brother does on the 200MHz ARM9 CPU (also used in the M6) from his NAS.

simple experiment : send me a video (>30 min) you believe to not having this problem and I'll test it on my M6. Then we'll know.

This firmware is batter than 2.004.1?

I have used mencoder (special built or default), Virtual Dub, MeGui, Batman and the synchronization is an issue in almost every video I have produced. It is not noticeable in short and low bitrate encodes but after two minutes it is getting annoying. Here is the creator of such a nice and effective program (BobbyQ of Batman) and someone comfortably says that there is something wrong with his encodes. A thousand people downloaded and used his program too and someone can blame that the encodes which play fine in a PC, PDA, PSP and even cellphones are faulty. What a nerve!...

Well, I was a fool to buy it because I knew it had problems with video before buying. However I thought "What the hell, they will post a new firmware and blink blink... All your problems are solved"

What a fool I was...

Originally Posted by kahveisteyen

I have used mencoder (special built or default), Virtual Dub, MeGui, Batman and the synchronization is an issue in almost every video I have produced. It is not noticeable in short and low bitrate encodes but after two minutes it is getting annoying. Here is the creator of such a nice and effective program (BobbyQ of Batman) and someone comfortably says that there is something wrong with his encodes. A thousand people downloaded and used his program too and someone can blame that the encodes which play fine in a PC, PDA, PSP and even cellphones are faulty. What a nerve!...

Hey, I can get on with BobbyQ pretty well. I have been PM'ing with him for a long time, trying to fix some issues with XviD. I don't say that the encodes are faulty, only that the MPEG4 decoder from the M6 is lacking and we need to adapt to that to solve the problem. If you read my post, you could have made that out of it.

yea man, i hate it when the video gets choppy just on the actions scenes...

i also agree, that meizu's coders are not paying attention to the real problems and sub standards...

Originally Posted by kahveisteyen

I have used mencoder (special built or default), Virtual Dub, MeGui, Batman and the synchronization is an issue in almost every video I have produced. It is not noticeable in short and low bitrate encodes but after two minutes it is getting annoying. Here is the creator of such a nice and effective program (BobbyQ of Batman) and someone comfortably says that there is something wrong with his encodes. A thousand people downloaded and used his program too and someone can blame that the encodes which play fine in a PC, PDA, PSP and even cellphones are faulty. What a nerve!...

Well, I was a fool to buy it because I knew it had problems with video before buying. However I thought "What the hell, they will post a new firmware and blink blink... All your problems are solved"

What a fool I was...

Your not the only one on the fool's boat. I am also experiencing video out of sync with the software provided with my meizu player and some mp3 songs stutter towards finish of its track. To resolve my video sync problem i had to use Badak which i got from this forum. I wished i wouldve came to this forum before buying it because its seems that no matter how may FW updates they do its not gonna fix the real major problems im having with this M6 SP player.

you guys are really picky, meizu is a really cheap player, you expect way too much from it

OMG. i hate to be saying this, but i realy think that this firmware isnt very good

to begin, i dont notice any improvements on the firmware, video still fall behind audio occassionally and i have noticed that in using this firmware, my player has crashed quite a few times, can anyone tell me why?

Then, as i was going through the pictures stored on the player, it suddenly went to a green screen for some random reason. please someone explain

thank you

Originally Posted by stranded

you guys are really picky, meizu is a really cheap player, you expect way too much from it

For $150 of my hard earned cash i expect this player to operate the way its suppose to. I didnt buy this player so ican beta test it nor play around with firmware. There is no excuse, the stutter problem shouldve been fix especially with so many threads with this problem people have posted.