NEW firmware from meizu's forum:T2.004.1

seiende · 08-17-2007

I had tested the newest firmware 2.004.1 beta.U can download in the meizu's forum.
The ONLY improving:Add "back to the menu".And it has another bug ,U can't read the Chinese'TXT,but no problem for English.
someone likes this firmware can download from here:

http://www.meizume.com/attachment.ph...d=118735997 9

WARNING:It will format　your disk!!!!

Err0r · 08-17-2007

Is this different from this: Beta Firmware Release ?

seiende · 08-17-2007

Another news: The J.Wong had decided :give up OTG.

there are only 2 engineers working for the m6's firmware.All the engineers join in the M8(the minione cell phone)'s project.

So,can we add the OTG? the answer is NO!

seiende · 08-17-2007

No different......
that's my fool....Sorry~~~

seiende · 08-17-2007

By the way,J.Wong, the BOSS of MEIZU

Echo · 08-17-2007

Originally Posted by seiende

Another news: The J.Wong had decided :give up OTG.

there are only 2 engineers working for the m6's firmware.All the engineers join in the M8(the minione cell phone)'s project.

So,can we add the OTG? the answer is NO!

2 engineers who prob work 8 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week to work on M6 FW. So what the hell do they spend 40 hours a week doing? Having sex with each other?

My god... 2 engineers sound sufficient to me.

Almoxil · 08-17-2007

Originally Posted by Echo

2 engineers who prob work 8 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week to work on M6 FW. So what the hell do they spend 40 hours a week doing? Having sex with each other?

My god... 2 engineers sound sufficient to me.

I'm a software developer, and I simply can't see why 2 capable engineers (are they software engineers?) wouldn't do the job. The firmware just can't be so complex. It's a bunch of coded routines: some code to boot the device and initialize the separate components, some for managing media and memory, some for music and video playback functions, some for screen, some for file transferring/syncing and so on... it's a matter of sorting out the bugs from those blocks of code. Some bugs can be easily located in individual routines and won't affect other code. Others will require integration or systemwide testing, since the fixed code may affect other functions.

IMHO, it shouldn't take so long for them to come with only that Return option in the menus. The adjustable shutoff timer issue, for example, could be solved by creating a menu option, a dialog box to choose the value and some code to set the relevant parameter in the player environmental variables to the given value. I can't see an average skilled programmer spending two months on this kind of "feature" (and they didn't even implement it!!)

oxyg3n · 08-17-2007

"WARNING:It will format　your disk!!!!"
damn shizer!!! it will take 40 min to move 8gb of music from meizu>pc, pc>meizu...

b-w-d · 08-17-2007

Almoxil, I could not aggree more. When I first bought the Meizu M6 there were quite frequent firmware updates and I was under the impression bugs would be fixed in the _near_ future.

People have made an infinite number of suggestions regarding new features, some even suggested that new features be added BEFORE bug fixes (that, I had to slate, as soon as I saw it on the official meizu forums).

Unfortunately it is becoming quite evident to me atleast (as I posted in the other beta thread) that the level of support offered by Meizu is significantly little more than the average chi-pod manufacturer. They are thinking big, they have a community behind them, but they fail to deliver the quality of goods we would expect from, dare I say, more respectable (perhaps western/european) manufacturers.

I really dont know or care if this is due to poor management or poorly skilled developers. If it does not change, I simply cannot recommend people buy these products.

Poor workmanship is poor workmanship - and that is that. If people buy an operating system which is buggy people are unhappy, because it should have as much quality control as possible before shipping & regular patches post-release. Well, here we are with a buggy firmware, and no adequate patches: guess what? I am really quite disappointed.

mbarry · 08-17-2007

The Firmware is the same as madman posted

Zed · 08-17-2007

Regarding the news about focusing on M8 - It's a shame that the company abandons a product like that. Meizu should have kept more people working on the M6, especially when there are a lot more bugs (serious ones) to fix, and the product still sells quite well. It's not right to release an uncomplete product and move on to the next project.

Regarding the new firmware - I believe (at least want to believe) that Meizu thought that the "return" problem should be addressed ASAP, so they decided to release a firmware just for it, and do it quickly. They did not put in any other features/fixes because they should test them before releasing them. I'm guessing they have some new features in store but they want to wait and release a proper firmware.
I really hope that it will be released soon, because we are waiting for a firmware upgrade for quite some time now, and, as I mentioned, there are some major bugs to be fixed.

DChronos · 08-17-2007

Wow, they made a whole separate device to use OTG, and according to a preview I saw that made me look into this player, it HAD OTG way back in the first releases, but had some bugs... so instead of fixing the bugs, they just decide to stop working on it? Well, the MP3 playing capability still has bugs, let's just tell them they can drop the ability to play those, too, while they're at it.

I think it's about time for us to start contacting Wong, or SOMEONE, and PERSONALLY sending them e-mails asking them not to give up on developing firmware for this. Next thing it sounds like is, they will just drop the M6SE altogether just to work on all the hundreds of things more that the M8 does over the M6, and takes 10 times as much time to only get halfway done and then quit on that for the "next big thing". What the hell ever happened to them saying they would compete with the iPod and try to be better??

This right here... this is going to really cripple their business if they don't do something now to fix the issues and do what they promised their customers not even 8 months ago. If their users see them abandon something like this, there's no guarantee they won't do it in the future, and a company you can't count on to even fix it's own problems isn't a company that a person would feel comfortable dropping a week's worth of pay on to get something from them.

Come ON, Meizu!! Either FIX YOUR BUGS, or at least, RELEASE THE FIRMWARE SOURCE so that us, the users, can do whatever we want with the now, obviously dying M6 series of players. When you drop this, there won't be ANY reason to keep that source code a secret. There isn't right now, even, as YOUR CODE WON'T RUN ON ANYTHING ELSE.

Echo · 08-18-2007

Originally Posted by oxyg3n

"WARNING:It will format　your disk!!!!"
damn shizer!!! it will take 40 min to move 8gb of music from meizu>pc, pc>meizu...

I upgraded, all my stuffs still there

dravik · 08-18-2007

DChronos to who are you saying this??? i gues you have to email it to the good person and if they still won't do it mail back that youre happy becose you have youre point, that you now have prove that they fuck there users... that always helps:P

sere83 · 08-18-2007

this lack of care in fixing bugs is quite concerning as I am looking to buy an m8, if they are this bad at codeing firware for a relatively simple device imagine all the problems that could arise with an advanced device like the m8!

Lexridge · 08-18-2007

Noting from the publicity photos of the M8, it appears to run a flavor of Windows....hence the Internet Explorer icon on the screen....or, it could be simply an artist mockup of what the GUI may look like, and doesn't use Windows at all. We'll find out soon enough I guess.

I agree Meizu should release the firmware sourcecode....or at least get the RockBox project to support Meizu products.

Regarding the OTG feature, I'd guess OTG would be a hardware function, so first, the USB chipset that is used in the M6 would have to be able to support it. If anyone has taken their M6 apart, it could be useful to have the chip numbers for cross referencing the cababilities of them. This information could also be vital for the Rockbox developers in order to start coding for the M6.

EDIT:
Found some interesting links regarding the guts of the M6 and the Rockbox project. The third link contains photos of the innards of the M6.

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10078.0
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4291.0
http://my.opera.com/inokia/albums/sh...icture=1088876

DChronos · 08-18-2007

Lex, those shots are all from the first version of the M6, the T1, and the M6 no longer looks like that inside. It's close... but not quite.

Dravik, I already emailed a nice email last night asking them to come here and read our posts, and to think about opening up the firmware with the points of why it would not hurt their business, and would only help it. I hope it gets to the right place, as the person that I had dealt with through it was someone helping with support and stuff. It might be Yankee's e-mail, and he's the admin of the official US boards. They sound like someone who could take it to the higher ups, at least.

dravik · 08-18-2007

Originally Posted by DChronos

Lex, those shots are all from the first version of the M6, the T1, and the M6 no longer looks like that inside. It's close... but not quite.

Dravik, I already emailed a nice email last night asking them to come here and read our posts, and to think about opening up the firmware with the points of why it would not hurt their business, and would only help it. I hope it gets to the right place, as the person that I had dealt with through it was someone helping with support and stuff. It might be Yankee's e-mail, and he's the admin of the official US boards. They sound like someone who could take it to the higher ups, at least.

Ok nice to hear!

Lexridge · 08-19-2007

Originally Posted by DChronos

Lex, those shots are all from the first version of the M6, the T1, and the M6 no longer looks like that inside. It's close... but not quite.

Are you sure? One of the shots showed the circuit board version as being a M6 v.3. What version of the circuitry is current?

thanks for the info.

Lexridge · 08-19-2007

Also, something else comes to mind regarding the Firmware......It would seem that most independent distributors (ie Dane-Elec) actually have access to the firmware source, hence the functionality differences between different 2003.2 firmwares. Perhaps these are the people we should be asking for updates from, instead of Meizu.