Creative EP-630 vs. Sony MDR-EX71

Hey! MeizuMe looks to have in a long time missing an important thread
A place to speak of the 2 maybe most popularly in-ear headphones:
CreAtive EP-630 and Sony MDR-EX71



So now here can you tell of your experience with them while using them with your Meizu Miniplayer M6,

Example:
What’s best?..., I like that…., I don't like…., My EQ is.?.when using them? or whatever your heart says, anybody shall let now.

I own them both, but never like to use them, since I never have got good sound with them.
I have now nearly given up to set my EQ right up with these sets,
so I properly now got to have some help!
(Don't need it anymore - See the following posts.)


Thanks
And
Enjoy

I'm not picky about diction, but I don't understand a word other than something about headphones.

Sorry my english, Thread still under produktion right now!

Better?

much better now. I don't have one of the mentioned headphones. But I know how good the M6 sound quality is in general. So if I were you I would do the following :
- put the latest firmware on it
- turn spatializer off
- choose default equalizer (flat)

if this sounds really bad, your headphones suck.
In case you hear not enough mid-tones (which means your headphones still don't seem to be very good), you can turn the spatializer to "normal" mode and use the PCE to compress the sound until the mids sound better. I used this on some cheap headphones to really work wonders on them.
Now you can fine-tune the result with the Equalizer. Don't you ever use spatializer in "3d" mode nor "natural speakers" if you want clear and good sound.
Final question : how do your original Meizu earphones sound in comparison ? I think they're absolutely acceptable. No match for the v-moda vibes IEM I got, though.

Oh, btw .. thread is not the same as threat ;-)

I own both of the earphones you listed. Sony one broke, currently using Creative. Here are my suggested EQ settings (for the Creative one, but the Sony one would do fine as well):

bass boost: 5
treble boost: 2
spatializer: normal
virtual 3d: 1
PCE: 3
ViBE: 1
Speaker type: earphones
EQ: user defined:

+4 +2 +4 +2 -1 +5 -2 0 +2 +6

If you STILL find this too bassy, try lowering the left side of the EQ from +4 downwards, and +2 downwards. Also, you can lower the bass boost.

Good questions!
First of all do I not have the latest firmware version on my Meizu M6 right now.
I have some problems with firmwares since I have a special Dane-Elec version of the Meizu M6. (Live in Europe)
My second problem can be followed here:
http://www.meizume.com/showthread.php?t=2820

The other things have I give a try, but it doesn’t have been a positive start for me.
My sound isn't very bad, but it is not that good so I will fly the sky’s and say hurray!
It’s just flat and.....wrong.
I can say I already have set up 3 Headphones with very good sound.
A Sony MDR-E931, Sennheiser MX300 and the Meizu PT850.
So it is not because I can't get good sound out of my Meizu M6.
The 2 other have so now been a challenge for me.
The original Meizu Headphones have also impress me more than expected, and yes, they are more than acceptable.
The 3 headphones I have set up are without the spartializer. but the others
It.. !=¤%# just getting the sound worse whatever I do.

Maybe should I write my settings with my PT850, so you can see where my taste is in the “EQ-world”!

Here they are:

Bass Booster: 8
Treble Booster: 1
Spartializer: Off
EQ: User Defined
-8, -3, -2, 0, 0, 0, 0, +2, +3, -8

Sorry to hear the Sony's is broken iversonjack, because you came up with some good sound settings and tips, simple and long from what I have tried to set up my EQ.

I have tried the setting with the Creative's, but have only make poor sound in my ears.
Then I tried my EX71, and that’s was whole different. Quiet better what I have heard before. Then I played a little with the setting, and then was the sound perfect for me. I:DI
So I will thank you for helping me getting good sound in my ears.

But I still need good sound with the Creative EP-630
Have tried the same settings!
Help!

It cannot sound good if you put the bass booster to 8 and reduce bass with the EQ (-8@ 60 Hz).




[quote=The Torminator;30199]
"First of all do I not have the latest firmware version on my Meizu M6 right now.
I have some problems with firmwares since I have a special Dane-Elec version of the Meizu M6. (Live in Europe)"


You should update the FW with the latest meizu version

I wonder if you have tried it, for so can I say for sure we don't have same taste.
If you are a bass junky, will there be something to talk about, else no.
But many thing can also play in, do I think.
Maybe is our Meizu Headphones different I Specifications?
It sounds wonderful for me.



I have now a special firmware version 2002.3 but when I upgrade to 2003.2 so I’m losing Danish Language, and I don't want that!

Which site should I download the firmware from?

It cannot sound good if you put the bass booster to 8 and reduce bass with the EQ (-8@ 60 Hz

For a note I have now change my mind.
The sound is bad. I can now see it too.
It looks I have set my EQ in a hurry.

To set an EQ is hard for me.

Whatever happened to the word refinement in the world of audio? ehehhe. Playing around with the EQ causes phase shifts, which alters the pitch and tonality of your music. The highest amount of detail is attained when the EQ is flat (assuming you are using a DAP with a reasonable audio chip).

Now, sound quality judgements are unfortunately subjective, however theres also common ground with audio quality. Something that almost everyone will agree on (assuming everyone has had good exposure to high quality music and high quality phones' , which unfortunately isnt the case).

There is no BEST eq setting, although in my opinion the "BEST" EQ setting is 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0. :D But when someone says that bass boost 12 and +10 on 60hz
sounds good on their phones, then I'm sure anyone with knowledge in audio will disagree heavily.

Now, Something I would like to introduce you all to, is the concept of inverse equalisation (not sure if inverse is the correct term to use, but i call it that anyways ). Inverse EQ involves doing cuts on all the frequencies instead of
boosting all of them.

For example, if you feel that bass is lacking on your phones' then drop the treble frequencies a bit, if you feel that bass isnt tight enough, then drop some midrange frequencies. (Drop as in put them below 0).

At first you may feel that this makes you music dark and soft, and I'll agree with you there, but if you compare it to the boosted EQ settings, you'll notice subtle improvements in detail and significantly less pitch/tonal shifting w.r.t. vocals and other aspects of your music. The downside is that you'll have to increase the volume on your player (thus less battery life), but you do get the extra details and accuracy compared to boosting all the frequencies above 0dB.

In, general, the equaliser is there to substantiate your phones' for qualities which you believe it lacks. For example, the Etymotic ER6i, in my opinion lacks bass, in which case, I would lower the treble frequencies a notch to give the bass more presence.

If you've never had experience with high-end headphones/IEMs then you may not appreciate what I've just said and thats fine :P Just trying to give everyone a broader view of the usage of equalisers.

Great explanation
I have discovered many choose a flat EQ.
But this will let me understanding my EQ better!
Thanks
I will now give it a another try.

Good point Blackstar, I'll try that reverse thing soon.

my headphones died after 6-weeks!!
awww f*** it!!
don't now howto get new ones, the original ones had a clear bass.

Have now got the latest firmware on my Meizu, (2003.2)
but still can't set this eq and spartializer perfect up, because I really don't know where to start. (Still confused over the many settings)
The large explanation has also suddenly not give much sense to me.

@ torminator

i own the sony MDR-EX71 headphones and so far i have used them with various players - allways resulting in a good (clear/pure) sound. I should get my Meizu M6 in the next few days and I can post my eq settings if you like to.

Yes, of cause. It will be nice if you will.
Your highly welcome, when you getting your meizu M6.
I guess you can't wait getting it. It's too exiting, right?

If you find adjusting EQ hard, maybe you should just not use it. Some people prefer that.

i've owned both of these ear phones, both have excellent sound quality for the price. the sony's are a prone to wire breakdown from the earpieces, and this happened to quickly for my liking. the creatives on the other hand are bomb proof, i've had the set i'm using now for 18+ months and they're still kicking out crisp treble and deep bass- for 30 bucks you just can't go wrong.

as for using the user defined equalizer, this is hard work, as your settings need to be adjusted for each seperate album. but if you do want to use it, the best way to set it up to your own personal preferance is to take all the levels down to the bottom limit, and crank each level up, one at a time starting from the high frequency end (right hand side) until you don't like the sound anymore- et voila, personally adjusted musical heaven.

go creative