Question about FLAC

Is it possible to compress FLAC file so that its less than 30mb or a 4 minute song?

the compression of FLAC depends on the level youy choose it to convert to
The higher the level, the longer it takes
its still lossless though

however, as far as my experiences go small than 30MB is hard to get

Thx.

Heheheh, M6 M3 allows for FLAC support, but when you look at it, the 8GB is really small.

Yeah it's about 500Mb per album with this format, but Why do you use the FLAC format? Can you really hear a difference between a Mp3 file and a FLAC one?

Originally Posted by SpoinK

Yeah it's about 500Mb per album with this format, but Why do you use the FLAC format? Can you really hear a difference between a Mp3 file and a FLAC one?

With the correct headphones, yes.

I can only listen to FLAC on M6, can't stand the "was that an artifact?, did that sound right?" phenomenon of listening to lossy files. Scalability of volume is clean on lossless but can exhibit bad glare on even the highest bitrate mp3s.

The 4GB miniplayer I have isn't quite large enough for me to carry all that I want, but has to be enough for now. 8GB will be better, and sweet spot for me is probably 12-15 GB.

500MB per album? thats not much smaller then the original WAV file... a WAV file is like 600!

Originally Posted by Job

500MB per album? thats not much smaller then the original WAV file... a WAV file is like 600!

FLAC and WAV both have the same quality of Lossless formatting. Just that FLAC supposedly works better with compression or something.

FLAC actually compresses while WAV doesn't.

Yes WAV isnt compressed WAV is the original file
Personally I am not a big fan of FLAC(yet), despite the great quality, and that's because the compression rate just isn't high enough... at 500 MB an album my player will be full in no time

Originally Posted by Job

Yes WAV isnt compressed WAV is the original file
Personally I am not a big fan of FLAC(yet), despite the great quality, and that's because the compression rate just isn't high enough... at 500 MB an album my player will be full in no time

Heh, and people ask Jobs (Steve Jobs) why the fuck do you need a 80GB DAP.
Well now you know. Oh wait, iPods don't support FLAC! Suck it Apple!

I usually store my music in FLAC (or APE) and convert them to mp3 to listen in my player.
FLAC is good and the compression is pretty good too.
In a M6 4gb you have room for aproximately 10 or 11 full CD's. May be more.
The good thing with FLAC is that you have one FLAC file with the CD image and a CUE file with the tracks.
I guess that M6 cannot handle this, and you have to cut the FLAC in individual tracks. Foobar2000 makes the job

Originally Posted by jespo

I usually store my music in FLAC (or APE) and convert them to mp3 to listen in my player.
FLAC is good and the compression is pretty good too.
In a M6 4gb you have room for aproximately 10 or 11 full CD's. May be more.
The good thing with FLAC is that you have one FLAC file with the CD image and a CUE file with the tracks.
I guess that M6 cannot handle this, and you have to cut the FLAC in individual tracks. Foobar2000 makes the job

My Player needs to be about 20GB to fit all the music I want on it....

Originally Posted by SpoinK

Yeah it's about 500Mb per album with this format, but Why do you use the FLAC format? Can you really hear a difference between a Mp3 file and a FLAC one?

Not if you hear Subliminals recordings.
If you encode them in MP3, will lose the "details".

BTW, what is the difference between Flac and Apple "lossless"?

Can Apple "lossless" be played on the M6?

I cannot hear any differance between 320kbps MP3 and FLAC lossless. Some do tho, but it is a veeery small differance ^^

Originally Posted by Richy

Can Apple "lossless" be played on the M6?

no, no apple format plays on the M6
Apple is terrible whenit comes to that

if youre looking ofr a lossless format i think FLAC is the best choice as its used most often i think

Originally Posted by Echo

Heh, and people ask Jobs (Steve Jobs) why the fuck do you need a 80GB DAP.
Well now you know. Oh wait, iPods don't support FLAC! Suck it Apple!

You can convert them to ALAC(Apple lossless) via Foobar and I have 70 GB ALAC music in my ipod.

Originally Posted by Err0r

With the correct headphones, yes.

I second that. But only if I have the direct comparison and if it is music I know really well. If I had to make the pepsi test I would probably fail ..
Current listening tip : Porcupine Tree - Voyage 34
Don't cripple that fine music with mp3 .. please