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OSX kills m6 - fat related

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Old 06-11-2008   #1
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OSX kills m6 - fat related

Heey people,
For those whose library turns up empty, try checking and repairing the fat filesystem in windows or linux(fsck.vfat).

My problem: My meizu M6 doesn't show up in OSX. When I try accessing it with diskutil it can't be mounted. The little usb arrows on the player are always rotating so it does seem to do something. After disconnecting again my player tries to reconstruct the library which in turn show's up emtpy. After checking the filesystem for errors in linux/windows a few errors show up, are fixed and my player works again. So where in all this are things going wrong? Doesn't meizu comply to fat32 specs, does osx try to index the drive or something.. i'm confused. Anybody any idea's? I'm trying to shorten any seemingly long filepaths and stuff.. but i'm kinda out of ideas. Manually mounting the drive in OSX doesn't work either, just gives me an "invalid argument" error using "mount -t msdos /dev/disk1 /mountdir"
I'm using meizu M6 SP 8GB with FW 2004.6
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Old 06-13-2008   #2
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Solution to the problem (fat-error in osx)

Hi there mate, I have the same problem - how did you solve it again? eg. which errors did you get in the windowstest and how did you repair them?
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Old 06-14-2008   #3
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I'm probably having the same problem. OSX trashes M6, with both Meizu and Emgeton firmwares. USB icon just circles around and after disconnecting Update Music Library stays on indefinitely. After that the player becomes unusable and has to be formatted, with preferably new firmware installation

Linux sees the player immediately and gives no headaches. At the moment I'm using Emgeton firmware. FLAC playback is incredible - when the player works. But for now I can't even connect the player to my Mac...

My Meizu is M6 SL, firmware Emgeton 2004.6

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Old 06-15-2008   #4
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Actually I just did scandisk (right mouse click on drive -> properties -> scandisk) it doesn't give any errors, just reports some errors have been fixed. In linux I do get some errors about root clusters and I don't know what

I haven't been able to fix the problem yet.. i'll let ya know when I find a solution
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Old 06-16-2008   #5
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eh, os x is worse than os 9


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Old 06-20-2008   #6
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This might be related to the recent update to OS X. Some people with iAudio 7s have reported issues with connecting their player to OS X since the 10.5.3 update. I hope this is resolved by Apple in the 10.5.4 update due in July.
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Who knows... I got it working in the end.
These are the steps I did:

- Backup data from M6
- Let M6 Format itself
- Let M6 Low-Format itself -> reload resource file
- Format M6 to FAT32 in windows, gave drivename MINI
- Copy content back in OSX

I tried formatting to FAT in OSX itself, but this crashed my M6 once more.. So about compatibility:

Columns: Formatted by
Rows: Readble by

........OSX...WIN....M6.
OSX...X.....YES....NOT
WIN..YES....X......YES
M6....NOT..YES.....X..

I skipped Linux in the process.

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Thank you for reporting back with what worked for you. I've formatted my M6 with Windows now, and when I get home from work I'll try it with my Mac, and also report.
You've been a big help!
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Mh should have read that before, I just set up Mac os X new und installed 10.5.2 didnīt like .3 anyway. Diablo II isnīt working anymore and there is nothing worse in 10.5.2 than in 10.5.3 (for me), so iīl wait with the next update till itīs really necessary)
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Old 06-21-2008   #10
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Thank you Wbdsgnr. I have now successfully connected my M6 to my Mac following your instructions.
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Old 06-25-2008   #11
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I've had this same problem. Just wanted to add I've experienced this on different machines using 10.3.9 and 10.4.x, so its not just 10.5.x issue.
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Originally Posted by Wbdsgnr View Post
Who knows... I got it working in the end.
These are the steps I did:

- Backup data from M6
- Let M6 Format itself
- Let M6 Low-Format itself -> reload resource file
- Format M6 to FAT32 in windows, gave drivename MINI
- Copy content back in OSX

I tried formatting to FAT in OSX itself, but this crashed my M6 once more.. So about compatibility:

Columns: Formatted by
Rows: Readble by

........OSX...WIN....M6.
OSX...X.....YES....NOT
WIN..YES....X......YES
M6....NOT..YES.....X..

I skipped Linux in the process.

I'd like to try this process, but I'm worried that I'll go through all this and ultimately still end up not being able to use the m6 on my MacBook.

What version of OS X are you using that now works with the m6?

I'm on 10.5.4 + the latest firmware updates for the keyboard and other assorted fixes.

Were there any other things you did that you can think of (using one USB port instead of another, using a powered vs non-powered USB hub, etc)?

I don't mean to be dense or nit-picky, I'm just trying to cover all of the bases before I end up knee-deep in a mess of re-formatting.

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Originally Posted by Wbdsgnr View Post
Who knows... I got it working in the end.
These are the steps I did:

- Backup data from M6
- Let M6 Format itself
- Let M6 Low-Format itself -> reload resource file
- Format M6 to FAT32 in windows, gave drivename MINI
- Copy content back in OSX

I tried formatting to FAT in OSX itself, but this crashed my M6 once more..

Wait, I just realized something: if I follow these steps in this order, I'll end up with a FAT32-formatted memory drive, (not a fresh m6, won't I?

How can I make the m6 format itself, then low-level format (with the resource file), then format it to FAT32 in Windows but not lose everything I just did in the first 2 steps???

Does that make sense???

Shouldn't the Windows formatting happen before the resource file format? Otherwise, it seems like the Windows formatting will erase whatever the resource file added to the disk...
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Oh. My. GOD.

Wbdsgnr, you are a genius!!!! Despite my comments above, I followed your instructions (in the order you listed them) and it worked. I can now mount my m6 on the desktop of my MacBook running 10.5.4.

The filenames and titles are all screwy now because of the way that iTunes mangles, er, manages the library, but fixing that will be a piece of cake now that I can use my computer at home. This has been tormenting me since early June.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!








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Old 08-17-2008   #15
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Question concerning the workaround

Hi guys,

thank you for tackling that annoying problem. Before I try the workaround, I'd like to make sure what the last step

"Copy content back in OSX"

means.

What content? Music, firmware?

Thank you!
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After you update the firmware (by copying the files onto the m6), you format the m6 to FAT32 on a Windows machine; when that's done connect it to your Mac and copy all of your content (music, photos, videos, playlists) to the m6.



Sorry if that sounds like I made it extra-simple, but I've learned that I never manage to get through something like this without having a simple question that everyone assumes I already know the answer to. But I don't. And I always do the opposite of what I'm supposed to do the first time around.



Anyway, if I've left out some key detail, just let me know. Trust me, it's a lot easier to ask than to do it wrong and find out it didn't work after spending hours to end up with an empty player.
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Old 08-30-2008   #17
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I tried it with my M3 where formatting is done with the <> key. It worked!

My steps:
Back up data in Windows (Parallels) to an OSX readable drive
disconnect properly
let M3 Format itself (holding <> very long during startup)
start it
reconnect in Windows
Format FAT32 in Windows (give it a name! Without name it didn't appear in OSX)
disconnect
reconnect in OSX (and here it was!)
copy content back in OSX

(if it hangs press play for 10 sec to reset)

thank you again!! wonderful.
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