This is a discussion on Amazing M7 Alternative within the miniPlayer M7 forums, part of the Discontinued Products category; Originally Posted by swiltse
Looks alright but.. After my experience with the "HiPhone" I wouldn't touch this with a ten ...
Originally Posted by swiltse Looks alright but.. After my experience with the "HiPhone" I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
out of interest, what has the cheapass mobile phone (hiphone) got to do with the mp4player on discussion here. This player aint no mobile and hiphone is well renowned as being in a class of crapnesss all of its own, im not getting why the hiphone would turn you against this player - chalk and cheese
Looks alright but.. After my experience with the "HiPhone" I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
Sorry to say... but you are not in topic and completely wrong... first this Teclast player is not a phone it's just a PMP (Portable Multimedia Player) as Meizu M7 will be: a multimedia player.
Being a Teclast player there is no reason to doubt about its quality... Teclast player are good devices, as Meizu are. Combined with Wolfson audio decoder result has to be very satisfactory.
About comparison among Teclast T50 and Meizu M7
This Teclast T50 is a new generation of Rockchip players with similar characteristics with Onda VX858 which is a past generation of Rockchip chip. Responsiveness of touch screen is clearly better than those players and comes with lots of function to optimize its appearance.
But still are Rockchip players with the limitation that rockchip still has today, for instance the player shown in the video it's not capable of display cover art, which is a must for any serious music player. Don't get confused with the graphics shown at the beginning of this topic, which are just that... promotional designs. Probably support for cover art will come in future firmware version. Teclast is a regular upgrader of firmwares... so it possibly will happened in the near future but this it's not available yet, AFAIK.
Meizu M7 supposedly will have all the functions of M6 plus lots more beside a bigger screen. Then it should be lots better than T50.
What I wish for M7 is a device that has the functions and quality of the best PMP appeared in the market some time ago as it's Cowon D2, plus a bigger screen and... for god sake without the Philips audio codec which despite of bring a great sound... is the cause of the infamous stuttering.
well...I saw this a while back and although this looks nicer than a lot of chinese players, after watching the video and reading many forum posts i'm not totally convinced. The Rockchip Rk2607 chipset still has a number of limitations and problems and I'm really not sure how well implemented the touch screen and firmware on this player will be. It will certainly be nowhere near the smooth, enjoyable GUI experience you would get from an ipod touch.
As for the M7...at the moment it is literally only a dream IMO. I don't think Meizu have even started doing anything on the M7 as all their resources have gone into the M8. However I still think that if and when it does come out it will still be a lot better than this. The M6 is in a different class from all teclast players.
i bet meizu cant even remember the M7 theselves, it was so long ago that this was touted about and then it was nothing but a photoshop style image of what they wanted it to look like, plus some speculation
i wonder now if meizu regret leaving the mp4 market behind and doing phones, surely this has eaten up a hell of aalot of time and money, and the meizu m6 is being slowly eaten away in market share by more capable video orientated players with the foucus on RMVB being massive in china
i was amazed when i got my SL player (as replacement for SP) in the complete lack of the accessories that also made this player stand out, cost cutting obviously made this happen, so meizu is feeling the competition nipping large chunks out of its market and if the m8 does not do well i doubt meizu will recover enough to even think about another player
as a side note the audio on these new rckchips is pretty damn good ven without the wolfon as the T50 has, so in terms of sound this player should be up to the SL in quality (sp in my opinion sounded much better than sl)
i also agree with daremos, cover art is a MUST for me to feel that this is a true music player, it just feels so much better having the art as wel as th music
I also need album art like itouch style lol. I hope album art is just a limitation of the programming side of things and not the actual rockchips "chip" itself. =\
Wow... that's a nice advertisement alright! Unfortunately, we are only able to get the MP4 player, and not the girl from the advertisement
Anyway, isn't this the Samsung YP-P2 lookalike that was mentioned here? It had a much nicer design before, I wonder why they changed it (maybe it wasn't very easy to produce):
not implementing album art is just laziness on the programmers part, there is nothing stopping them, they just dont see it as important. They just like adding more and more features, like tv out, cameras rather than refining whats already there, like meizu has done (and will hopefully do more!!)
as for those original renderings of the player again its a case of speaking before thinking, Teclast with mp4 players advertise first then get the product from the factory (or not), though i do agree the previous design looks alot slicker
no, as far as i know no rockchip has ever had album art, some people may mention the Teclast T39 player, but this was not rock but telechips
i seriously hope that the unnamed site can now hassle the factory to implement this feature now they are buying direct, i know i will be campaigning for it
no, as far as i know no rockchip has ever had album art, some people may mention the Teclast T39 player, but this was not rock but telechips
You磖e right makd511... Teclast T39 is in the league of players like Cowon D2... in fact being both Telechips it has some similarities in the software: both players are designed for customizing of the skins... which is something more risky in Rockchip machines.
Teclast T39 > TCC 8200 + Wolfson WM8978G (TCC8200 = ARM9 200 MHz)
Cowon D2 > TCC 7801 + Wolfson WM8985 (TCC7801 = 2xARM9 400 MHz, probably the most powerful PMP of its generation)
Telechip TCC 7801 is used also by iRiver Clix 2 & B20, Samsung YP-P2 and LG FM37 among others
Concerning capabilities of display cover art and more extended management of ID3 that only is known by Rockchip designers of RK2706... if they haven't considered this... it will be a good machine without that feature
You磖e right makd511... Teclast T39 is in the league of players like Cowon D2... in fact being both Telechips it has some similarities in the software: both players are designed for customizing of the skins... which is something more risky in Rockchip machines.
Teclast T39 > TCC 8200 + Wolfson WM8978G (TCC8200 = ARM9 200 MHz)
Cowon D2 > TCC 7801 + Wolfson WM8985 (TCC7801 = 2xARM9 400 MHz, probably the most powerful PMP of its generation)
Telechip TCC 7801 is used also by iRiver Clix 2 & B20, Samsung YP-P2 and LG FM37 among others
Concerning capabilities of display cover art and more extended management of ID3 that only is known by Rockchip designers of RK2706... if they haven't considered this... it will be a good machine without that feature
hahaha don't be silly, the teclast t39 is a piece of sh*t compared to the Cowon D2. The D2 is a great player, the T39 is rubbish, I don't think the T39 even has ID3 tag browsing!
Well if thats the case, it looks like i might hold off buying the T50 for a while. I don't know why, but I find for a huge screen, album art browsing and viewing album art while playing to be quite a moderate sized selling point, amidst sound quality, design etc. (Well especially in todays times anyways!) With so many companies implementing album art, you'd think album art came as a standard package.
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i wonder now if meizu regret leaving the mp4 market behind and doing phones, surely this has eaten up a hell of aalot of time and money, and the meizu m6 is being slowly eaten away in market share by more capable video orientated players with the foucus on RMVB being massive in china
My guess: Not at all.
Meizu is making the smart play. Mobile phone + media player is the way to go in China.
Don't get your hopes up for the Teclast-branded T50. So far, neither the 8GB version nor any revised firmware has appeared. Hopefully, the reseller being discussed here will be able to support their version of the player longer than Teclast will support the T50.
Well if thats the case, it looks like i might hold off buying the T50 for a while. I don't know why, but I find for a huge screen, album art browsing and viewing album art while playing to be quite a moderate sized selling point, amidst sound quality, design etc. (Well especially in todays times anyways!) With so many companies implementing album art, you'd think album art came as a standard package.
dont worry there, i personally am on a mission to parachute atop the rockchip factory, chain myself naked to the directors desk and demand his be implemented!!!
I seriously need album art on a player, for me this is one of the reasons i love the meizu, i know it sounds daft and petty, but this one little function, to me, makes the difference .. a big difference, and with all that screen space to play with there is plenty of room for it.
chengdude, you are right about the mobile/mp4 market and meizu are making the right move in terms of trend, but for me this is the worst thing ever, a mobile is and always will be a separate device to me, even if the media player is excellent i do not want it in a phone, i like my mp player separate, but this bastard union between phone and mp4 player is inevitable, but i hope not for long and things revert back to separate devices soon - pleeeaasse
I read somewhere that around 35% of Chinese mobile users regularly use their phones to listen to music. Not only is that a large number of people, it's a huge percentage when considering a market. I'm not sure if Wolfson is going to figure into the M8's profile, but if Meizu can point to outstanding audio performance -even better, simplified with no special earphones or adapters necessary- plenty of folks will pay attention. If high quality video is part of the equation, that's just going to be icing and I can see a lot of Chinese buyers parking their MP4s in the drawer.
I also keep 2 separate devices for my personal use. The reason for using a phone as a phone and an mp3 player for music, is because my phone doesnt output high quality sound, and when you do play music on it, the battery life drops significantly, so i cant afford having my phone die on me. Keeping a separate device allows for independent battery life.
I think convergence is more of a convenience thing, being able to have a all-in-one device, but that doesnt come without impending disadvantages.
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