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Usually players are bundled with crap, being better than that isn't a big feat. Beating Sonys isn't hard too. Koss KSC models, which you can get, depending on where you live for around 10 €, are by far better. Also the Sennheiser MX300, while not good, are better, they should also be at around 10 €.
The PT850 have too much kick bass, not much real, low bass, weak mids and weak highs. I find that sound characteristic rather unpleasant.
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