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Old 04-27-2008   #5 (permalink)
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1. The M8's processor will be the samsung ARM S3C6410 processor. This processor is so new it has has not gone into mass production yet. It is highly likely that the 2nd generation iphone will use this processor as the 1st gen iphone uses the samsung ARM S3C6400 (the S3C6410 is the new updated version). Maybe this fact may go some way to making people understand part of the reason the M8 has not been released yet.
Yes, and on a less positive side it also show that Meizu was over-confident when first anouncing the M8, when they though they can achieve the same feature list you mention here with the 6400 processor...I hope they are not over-confident when anouncing the new release date of the M8, but personally before a video of a functioning sample (not prototype) and testing of this in the chinese bbs, I would not trust any release date anymore...

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2. This processor runs at 667Mhz and has advanced video decoding capabilities. It will be without a doubt one of (if not the most) powerful mobile phone processors of any phone widely available in the US or Europe. ( I am not including HTC's 'Advantage' and 'Shift' models as they are not phones but UMPC's). This Chip is 3G capable.
agreed, promising processor, as is the NVidia one. I hope its power consumption is low, did they go to a finer process than the 6400?
imho 3G capable is not interesting though: it is a feature that will not be present on m8 (except some new major delay, but then it will smell more and more vaporware...), and it is not like you will be able to upgrade your phone with a "3G antenna" afterward, isn't it? So processor features which are not implemented in a phone because some supporting hardware/chips is not present should not be mentioned: there is no chance a firmware or OS upgrade activate it later on...

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A 3.4 inch 720x480 res multitouch display >>>> 0
640*480 phones are availble, though (but not common), and it is imho comparable. Current processors are a little bit weak to drive those display, but for static tasks like reading ebook they are great....They are fine for dynamic tasks which do not demand high framerate too, like GPS software....

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A screen size over 3.3 inches >>>>> Apple iphone, very few more (if any)
HTC produced quite a few models with this display size...
The touch and ETen models are a little bit smaller, but this give you a smaller phone too, which is nice. IMHO iPhone is already on the largish side, meizu should be good for me but a smaller screen would not necessarily be bad (if the device is also overall smaller, imho a screen that cover almost all the front side of the phone is the best design, I do not like thumb keyboards)

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Multitouch >>>>>> 1 (Apple Iphone)
a small feature imho, one I would exchange for earlier availability in a heartbeat.
in fact I think gesture-based input (with single touch) is more promising...

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Total number of phones with tv out >>> Nokia N95 and a few more (but still very few)
interresting feature: I would like to be able to output movies on hotel rooms TV while on the move :-)

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Total number of phones with usb otg/host >>>> 0 (I am aware of)
This one is very interresting, if implemented correctly. Especially if it is full speed usb2 OTG (it seems to be, reading the speclist of the 6410), this would basically add a high-speed bidirectional standard port to the phone, something that is sorely lacking on devices without SDHC slots. Great for USB key, cheap additional storage! :-)

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Total number of phones with 16gb of nand flash on board >>> 2 I am aware of (apple iphone, Nokia N96)
but some come with SD or SDHC card slot. Have you checked the SDcard prices and capacity lately?
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As you can see from these statistics the M8 has a number of features many phones simply don't have. It will also be cheaper than most phones in it's category with similar specs. All these reasons lead me to believe the M8 will still be a good option when it is released, unless some groundbreaking device hits the market in the next 4 monthes to trump it (seems highly unlikely).
I agree with you, I am not bashing the m8 at all cause I still plan to buy one if nothing with a better quality/price ratio and a HVGA or better screen comes out before (I do not want QVGA screen anymore, I have been spoiled by a VGA PDA, now there is no turning back...)
The big problem is that the release date keeps shifting all the time, which make me doubt that it will be shipped at all....or that it deliver the promised feature list if it is, or that it is supported correctly (with firmware update...or opened to get android on it).
Now I agree with you, it is unlikely that in the next 4 month, a comparable device comes out....except the iPhone 2, but it suffer from Apple "total control" philosophy that personally I do not like at all (basically, I prefer to tinker than pay).
I would even go further: I feel that if the m8 is released this year, it will still hold its ground against the competition (that do not progress as fast as everybody tell: look at the hard specs: screen resolution and processor power have been quite stagnant, many new shiny shells but few real changes in the touchscreen devices department....except for the fast increase of onboard flash...Well, given the current price of flash memory, this seems quite normal ).

However, with the multiple delays and silence of Meizu CEO lately (after all the noise around CEBIT), i am not so confident about having a released m8 in 2008 anymore...
If Meizu further delay and is so late than m8 is not special technically anymore (which should happen after the release of 6410, nvidia or similar processors, and WM7 or android), I think it may not be released at all and meizu will probably dissapear outside China...
Basically, it is no big deal for me, it means I will get something else...but unfortunately later and probably at a higher price than I though when the m8 was anounced...

Last edited by gkai : 04-27-2008 at 03:29 PM.
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