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I don't use mine that often (only if I mind wearing my ugly but great sounding Koss). Ok, at the moment I use the PT850 more often because I have to fix some loose solder on my Koss... anyway, the PT850 pretty much suck. Not very comfortable (but neither are the Koss with my quite unflexible speaker cables), and terrible sound quality. Decent for something that comes with a MP3 player, but really they still are awful.
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