Smart-Q T5 II, real M6 competitor???

sere83

have a look at the Smart Q T5 II, it looks like the first real chinese competitor to the M6. It is actually better than the M6 for video too.

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http://72.30.186.56/babelfish/transl...2008-02-20.htm

I own the original T5 and it is a great machine but this looks like it could be amazing! It also uses the same (or similar) wolfson audio chip as the M6.

UPDATE: the screen shots are now working (they were not before)

DusL

Lol, if that's true then Meizu wont have a clear purpose on it's product market atm :D

Do you have some specs of this thing? Screen shots aren't working with me either.

lite

Same audio chip as M6?? The M6 is from 2005,2006!! Its a old device now.

sere83

the audio chip it uses is the Wolfson 8987. Not sure if it is exactly the same model as the M6 or a newer version, but I do know that wolfson make some of the best audio decoding chips available on the market and Meizu use a version of the wolfson chip (I think). This player also uses ADI's very latest blackfin processor which has only just been released and runs at speeds above 600mhz. The T5 II is said to have full DVD res Tv-Out and is said to be able to decode rmvb upto 1024 X 576. It will also have an optional wireless controller for gaming. As well as GBA,NES, SNES & NEO GEO emulator support, FM Radio, calender and other options. The T5 spec has yet to be ofically released but here is the spec for the original T5 that I own:

Size: 112 x 58 x 13 (mm)
Processor speed: 600Mhz
Storage: No internal flash, SD Card only (up to 4GB)
Display:3.0-inch (4:3) 16 million Color LTPS TFT, 320 x 240 resolution
Dual headphone Input

Audio:
MP3 : 8Kbps ~ 320Kbps VBR + CBR
OGG：Q1~Q10 OGG : Q1-Q10
FLAC：Level0~Level8 FLAC : Level0 ~ Level8
APE
WAV(PCM,ADPCM)
WMA
ID3 TAG: ID3 V1, ID3 V2 2.0, ID3 V2 3.0, ID3 V2 4.0
EQ: classical, rock, jazz and other types
Record Function: WAV(PCM,ADPCM) Various settings

Video:
AVI XVID/DIVX 3.11: 640x480 @ 30 fps 1000Kbps MP3/AAC/AC3
RM/RMVB: Real Video 9/10 D1 @ 30 fps 900Kbps Cook/AAC
MPEG: MPEG–1 352x288 @ 30 fps
3GP: 320x240 @ 30fps
FLV:320x240 @ 30 fps （VP6/H.263）

Photo:
GIF, BMP, JPEG (12 Mega Pixel Max)
Zoom/Rotate Functions

Emulator Support:
Nes
Snes
Neo Geo

Battery:
2100mAH Lithium-ion polymer rechargeable battery
Audio: 22Hrs
Video 7Hrs

Transfer:High-speed USB 2.0, transmission speed 4MB / S

In the Box: T5, Carrying case, Cleaning cloth, Wall charger and usb lead

With the new firmware it now supports Full ID3 tag browsing (genre and year aswell) Album Art support and is said to support SDHC cards too. My T5 is a great player. It does have a few problems decoding video at full speed above the screens native resolution, but with the new chip it should be much better. All videos re-encoded to 320x240 run great on mine at at all frame rates and high data rates. Unfortunately they seem to have taken down the T5 II screen shots but they have released a pre-release version of the new firmware for the original model that I have. It is the same as the T5 II but obviously does not include options for all the new hardware and software on the T5 II (Tv-out, calender, fm radio etc). I have included some screen shots you can see here >>>>>

http://www.*********.net/forum/viewt...hp?f=20&t=1921

The T5 II releases oficially on Feb 26th, we will have more info then. I think it will be a really great device. From my experience the engineers really know what they are doing and actually fix problems (unlike the meizu engineers) and firmware updates are very frequent. Since I got the player it has improved an unbelievable amount, with this new firmware it is almost unrecognisable. I have used many chinese devices and this is the best I have used apart from perhaps the M6, but it trumps the M6 in a number of ways too.

sere83

a ha! found them, heres 2 pages of screen shots of the T5 II >>>>>>

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SteveMB93

That thing is ugly!

swiltse

Reminds me of my old GameGear

sere83

The device Itelf is not very good looking I agree, but the look of the new GUI kicks the crap out of every other chinese manafacturer and also a number of other non chinese brands plus I get the option to play mario kart for Game Boy Advance!! In terms of all round media players, Meizu better watch out cos Smart Q have seriously upped their game.

SteveMB93

Meh, I can do that with my PSP and play real games.

sere83

psp has only average sound, is very large to carry and has poor battery life for video. Plus even if hacked it still cannot support all the codecs the T5 can. I do like the psp but it is a different kind of device all together, can't really compare as it is predominantly a gaming machine.

SteveMB93

But the PSP has a 4.3" 480x272 LCD, this has a 3" 320x240 LCD. That's the same resolution as the 2.5" iPod video 5G. The PSP supports any sized Memory Stick Pro Duo, which are up to 8GB, while this supports a maximum of 4GB. It has Wi-Fi and is not nearly as ugly.

sere83

well....480x272 on a 4.3 inch screen is not much better than 320x240 on a 3 inch screen in terms of DPI. The archos 605 and the cowon A3/Q5 both have 4.3 inch screens at 800x480 displays so the psp display is not great by any means. The SmartQ T5 now accepts SDHC cards too. But again I think it is an unfair comparison. The Psp is a high end portable games console manafactured by one of the largest tech companies in the world. The SmartQ is a portable media player made by a very small chinese company with a miniscule budget for product research and development when compared to a giant like sony. The T5 costs a lot less and is a different type of product. It's like comparing Meizu to Microsoft at making software, it does not make sense. Everyone knows the majority of chinese media players cannot compare to the best media playing devices made by huge western/japenese/south korean tech companies. However they are a lot cheaper and do offer different things (losless codec support, open source codecs, emulators etc). If someone was in the game for a cheap chinese player that performs well, I would recommend the T5. If they wanted a high end portable games console I would recommend the psp. But if they wanted a cheap media player I would not recommend the psp and if they wanted a high end games console I would not recomend the T5. Different products for different consumers with different needs. But again I do think the psp is a nice device too.

DimaMP4

The GUI and the features are looking good. But the device doesn't. I would get it if it was, 1. cheap, 2. Runs GBA(pokemon is da shiz) in full speed, and has a good battery life for playing emu's etc.

sere83

well it is not a great looking device and it is a little bulky, but in the flesh I think it looks ok, the build quality is better than most chinese players and the looks have definitely grown on me. The New GUI is very nice. Not every game runs on the GBA emulator perfectly but updates are frequent and certain games run very well. Mario kart and aladdin run perfectly at full speed. I have only tried a few more, and of course you have nes, snes, & neo geo too. SmartQ rate the video battery at 7-8 hrs, obviously I don't think it is as long as that, but it is still very good nevertheless, particularly considering most chinese device batteries are terrible. The battery has a high capacity of 2300mah and I have found it too be very good for a combination of music-games and video and also for extended video watching and game playing on their own.

heres a video of the new firmware in action:
YouTube - Smart Q T5 New Interface Firmware V2.0 Pre